.35 Remington and powder coated bullets

Ian

Notorious member
Had just enough daylight and lull in the cold rain to shoot the third and fourth groups in this little adventure after work. First target got destroyed by the weather.

Anyway, I'm experimenting with higher velocity powder coat, soft bullets, gas checks, and my beat-up old Marlin 336 "rescue" all at one time. Following Glen Fryxell's lead with powder selection, I jumped right in with 35 grains of H-335 for starters, went to 36, and today eecked up another grain and shot two groups at 37, should be real close to 2100 fps and removes any doubt that the primer worked.

[EXCUSE ALERT] It was cold (to me, 51°F) and I was wearing my super-slippery light mechanic's jacket which didn't like the slick plastic butt plate and I was in too much of a hurry to set up proper bags, so I dumped shot #4 high from the first group and felt it happen. First shot, cold barrel was 1.5" low. The lower group was after I cranked on the elevation knob a bit and shot the lower group from kneeling to see if I could manage the vertical better. Not so much. But three of five from the first group went into 3/8" resting my elbows on the bench so something might be going right. [/EXCUSE ALERT]

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Here's a picture of the bore inside the muzzle as best I can take one with my terrible skills and cheapo camera. There's still a little bit of antimony wash and some lead from the breech end being pushed out, I didn't clean it very well before starting this project and lots of too-soft plain-based .38 revolver bullets last summer left some memories behind and I decided just to shoot it out. The powder coated 9 BHN bullets don't seem to mind.

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So far so good, I just need to learn how to shoot again, and get after that floppy-loose forearm with some RTV silicone. Will do more as time and weather permit, and get some chronograph numbers going.
 
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freebullet

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51-cold...nah I don't think so. High of 49 today & I wasn't wearing a coat at all outside for awhile. Sheesh, Southern fellas got it made.:p

That is a striking blue & I like it. That load shows some promise. I like h335 but, find it a bit temperature sensitive. Used a bunch of it in 223 & 3030. Low of 9 here in a couple nights, wanna come shoot?:)

Gonna have to build a heated shoot house down there to prevent frostbite.
 

quicksylver

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Well Ian...interesting results concidering the weather and time you had...certainly worth pursuing ....

Since it seemed to work well I think I would take my time and try it again...and see if you can get more cosistant results..

Dan
 

quicksylver

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War free b said about H335..I like it and use it sometimes in my 223..but I believe there are better choices out there..it the long forgotten 2520 or Varget...even 4064...just saying
 

Ian

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Main thing for now is to establish a load and see how the PC and really soft bullets do. That's by far the fastest I've ever shot a 9 BHN bullet without a paper jacket.

After looking at several powders in that burn range and studying what Quickload had to say, H335 seemed a good choice to work near the top end of velocity. Now that a few rounds have been sent downrange with these bullets it might be time to look at some other powders.
 

oscarflytyer

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I am shooting jackets with 38 grns of H335. Would love to push some 200 Cast with 36 grns. Not PCing, but hopefully my lubes will work with this load/velocity.
 
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freebullet

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Nothing wrong with that one. It just won't do the same next summer without a rework.

Rx7?
 

Ian

Notorious member
RX7 is what I used to shoot a one-hole group with some some beerchex PB checked bullets Beagle sent me a few years back, when I first got the rifle and the lever wanted to pop open every shot, the oil-rotted stock fall off, or the bottom metal pull out of the receiver due to a short side screw being installed on the bottom from the factory. Got all that fixed now the jam-fit magazine tube relieved and straightened, and the warped forearm relieved for bedding. This thing was a total mess. Still is a mess, but it's a safer mess.
 
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freebullet

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Still more fun than my w which has its own set of issues. In a more unique caliber to boot. I'd do the same test rested, it shows promise.
 

Will

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I've only been able to get my 336 35 rem to shoot using 4198.
I tried lever revolution which I've read others had good luck with, but all I could get it to do was shoot 6" groups.
 

Chris

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I've only been able to get my 336 35 rem to shoot using 4198.
I tried lever revolution which I've read others had good luck with, but all I could get it to do was shoot 6" groups.

RX7, 4198, 3031 do well. 4227, 4759 at mid velocity. Unique, some of the dots work at lower velocity. This has been my experience regarding useful accuracy.
 

Ian

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I wondered about the Leverevolution powder. Never had much use for it after trying to get some sort of consistency in my .30-30 with cast bullets. Seems it doesn't like cast bullets?
 

gman

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I've pushed some to just over 2200 fps in my CVA which favored 3031. Ian is this the LEE bullet?
 

Ian

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Yes, it is the Lee bullet. 3031 is in my larder and on the radar, but will probably limit velocity to just under 2K fps out of this 20" barrel. I'm not trying to hot rod this little cartridge, but am trying to maximize its potential at 85% or or less of max pressure. 3031 will be self-limiting as a full case only gets to about 65-70% predicted max pressure.
 

35 shooter

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Considering the foul shot and the one you said was you that went high....you may have nailed a heck of a load right off the bat.
I'd definitely be shooting that one again from a good rest for sure.

I hope it holds up for you or you find another that does that well with the pc at those speeds...Nice!
 

yodogsandman

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At one time, I chronied the Remington 200 gr RN factory rounds for comparison and they got 2080 FPS. The 200 gr Hornady RN loads clocked the same with 32.0 gr RL#7.
This is in the kids 336's.
 

Ian

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Cut rifled, six grooves. One coat, asbb, shakenbake. Air cooled 50/50, for 9 bhn the day they were shot, still hardening up, probably will get to 12 or so eventually.
 

Missionary

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I would think most any self respecting corn cruncher would far prefer getting lanced with one of those handsome blue projectiles far over the nasty looking greasy pills that I have launched.
Keep the info coming. I thought I would get some war painted cast going this past summer... but that just never got farther than 3 bags of PC and three cool-wip pots.
Wonder if PC can be had down here of good quality ??? The 1907 44WCF SRC would be thrilled to get something new to digest.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
..but I believe there are better choices out there..it the long forgotten 2520 or Varget...even 4064...just saying

Be careful with AA-2520 and cast. Been warned off it, by some highly respected names, in the firearms industry. It's my powder of choice for 308W and jacketed. I tried it in my AR-10 with cast and shot some very respectful groups until said warning.......