44-90 Remington Special Necked

oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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Warning! Very down in the weeds odd stuff! This is the kind of stuff that a very good local friend of mine plays in extensively, and has managed to get me drug into. Got me hooked on old Remington Rolling Blocks, and ANYTHING that is way out there/OLD/NOBODY else is gonna show up at the range with, or even know what the he!! it is that I show up with!!!

44-90 Remington Special Necked

So... the 44-90 Remington Special Necked takes a .442 sized bullet, and I just happen to have a .442 H&I sizing die. Buddy has 200 new (old stock) primed 44-90 Remington Special Necked cases. We have molds that will work as well.

This caliber was made on a Creedmoor Rolling Block for Buffalo back circa 1870s

With the above - Anyone?!?...
Chamber Reamer in 44-90 Remington Special Necked?
Dies?
And what about a rifle chambered in 44-90 Remington Special Necked? Or even a RB bbl chambered in 44-90 Remington Special Necked?

Gotta ask! lol
 
L Ross

L Ross

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I was once showed a huge gun collection, very privately. The two that stuck in my mind were the Span-Am .30 U.S. Gatling gun and the Remington Rolling Block that was I think Nimske engraved. It was for the Chicago World's Fair if I remember correctly. I think it may have been .44-90.
I asked Doc if he ever shot it. He got a look on his face like I'd suggested blasphemy. Now he's long dead. He should have shot the damn gun.
It was fancy, very fancy.
 
oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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Ric - I'm with you. Had a couple that were hunting guns and too pretty to scratch up in the woods and didn't even want to put them on the bench. They got traded.
 
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JustJim

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oscarflytyer said:
Warning! Very down in the weeds odd stuff! This is the kind of stuff that a very good local friend of mine plays in extensively, and has managed to get me drug into. Got me hooked on old Remington Rolling Blocks, and ANYTHING that is way out there/OLD/NOBODY else is gonna show up at the range with, or even know what the he!! it is that I show up with!!!

44-90 Remington Special Necked

So... the 44-90 Remington Special Necked takes a .442 sized bullet, and I just happen to have a .442 H&I sizing die. Buddy has 200 new (old stock) primed 44-90 Remington Special Necked cases. We have molds that will work as well.

This caliber was made on a Creedmoor Rolling Block for Buffalo back circa 1870s

With the above - Anyone?!?...
Chamber Reamer in 44-90 Remington Special Necked?
Dies?
And what about a rifle chambered in 44-90 Remington Special Necked? Or even a RB bbl chambered in 44-90 Remington Special Necked?

Gotta ask! lol
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I swore off rolling blocks after the latest case head separation, but messed around with them for years and years. I've only known the 44-90 RS in a Hepburn and a Lone Star. The idea of building one seems like a lot of work, given problems finding the right barrel, chamber reamer, dies, etc, except. . . .

Bobby Hoyt might be willing and able to make you a barrel, or you could slightly modify your plan and use a barrel lined with the 44-77 Sharps liner Track of the Wolf sells. Chambers can be bored rather than reamed (and a lot of times, done better that way). Dies can be made, or modified.

Now that I think about it, another rifle/barrel source might be a Whitney. They had a rolling block action the same general dimensions as the #1 Remington; the barrel used the same threads, but one thread longer. I've used a couple of their barrels on rolling blocks (cheap, because they weren't really Remingtons, and who had a Whitney action laying around?). A good barrel in 44-90 RS might be scarcer than hen's teeth.
 
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JustJim

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Oh hey, another option: find a good Argentine roller in 43 Spanish, and re-chamber. Odds are good you'd be very close on bore diameter. Recoil isn't that bad with a 90 grain charge in the military rifle, but don't try it in the carbine!

(The 44-77 Remington bottleneck is little more than a .43 Spanish in mufti; I've always wondered which came first. The 44-90 Remington Regular was loaded in 44-77 brass, charged with 90 grains of powder under a paper-patch bullet seated about .070 into the case. From what I've seen in the catalogs, that load went away in the late 1870s, but the day after I learned of it I was testing 90 grain loads in my 43 Spanish rifle.)
 
oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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Thanx Jim. all too well aware of the 43 and 44-77 bullet diameters! AND GOOD Argentine rollers! First one I had was a mess/way over chamber and bore - also why I own the .442 sizing die! It had also been very polished and rounded off edges from the "clean-up" they did on a lot of them prior to selling as surplus in the '50s (I learned this after the fact - this was my first one). Since got a very good Argentine and enjoying it. Also have a custom in 45-70. I am shooting light loads in the 43. Can't imagine 90 grns of BP in a 43! Yikes!

My buddy will end up building the 44-90, I am confident! I might get one done if just luck into components.
 
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