Missionary
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Saw a Carbine barrel advertised rebored to 9mm and "suggested" to chamber in 9MM Mag. Looks interesting.
Any information will be appreciated.
Any information will be appreciated.
Anyone owned /shot / know of an M1 Carbine in 9MM Magnum ?
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Petrol & Powder
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Can't say I've seen one but it sounds like a step backwards.
CZ93X62
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9mm Win Mag brass made a great precursor for forming 30 Mauser/7.62 x 25 Tokarev brass from in the early 1990s. I still have ~350 of the 500 of those I reformed.
I never encountered a 9mm Win Mag Wildey pistol. It didn't set the world on fire. Those were extant when I was making some good money back in the day, but I resisted those siren calls manfully.
I never encountered a 9mm Win Mag Wildey pistol. It didn't set the world on fire. Those were extant when I was making some good money back in the day, but I resisted those siren calls manfully.
Petrol & Powder
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If you re-barreled an M-1 Carbine with barrel chambered for 9mm Luger, you be starting down a complicated path.
The M-1 magazine is excessively long for the 9 x 19 cartridge, and maybe slightly too narrow.
The bolt face would need to be opened up to match the slightly larger base diameter of the 9mm Luger cartridge.
The bolt travel on the M1 is longer than it needs to be for 9 x 19, which could lead to cycling problems.
The gas system is set up for the M1 round, not sure if that would work.
And the list goes on.
I don’t see the up-side to that conversation.
The M-1 magazine is excessively long for the 9 x 19 cartridge, and maybe slightly too narrow.
The bolt face would need to be opened up to match the slightly larger base diameter of the 9mm Luger cartridge.
The bolt travel on the M1 is longer than it needs to be for 9 x 19, which could lead to cycling problems.
The gas system is set up for the M1 round, not sure if that would work.
And the list goes on.
I don’t see the up-side to that conversation.
Missionary
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The cartidge suggested was the 9mm Mag. The little I have read said the round ends up near 30 Carbine length and feeds well from M1 mags.
Not looking for a "358 mag thunder stomper". Just looked like an interesting carbine application to use in up close encounters with snarely, large cats in river bottoms.
Not looking for a "358 mag thunder stomper". Just looked like an interesting carbine application to use in up close encounters with snarely, large cats in river bottoms.
Petrol & Powder
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That makes a little more sense than 9 x 19.
Not sure I would do that conversion to a good M1 carbine but maybe if I had an extra receiver and was looking for a project.
Missionary
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I would not tear apart a good WW2 Carbine just to play with. But I figured on seeing a bubbae'd sporterized mess at a show wandering the floor one day. Have seen several with 16+" barrels sitting in butchered wood with ratty scope mounts with what looks like mig welds holding things together.
CWLONGSHOT
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My local dealer has had a 9mm "M1 carb" for over a year.
Missionary
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CW... Does your dealer shoot it or is it sitting on the shelf for sale ?
CWLONGSHOT
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I think its brand new.
I seem to recall Doc Carlson at Upper Missouri Trading was converting carbines to 45 Win Mag and maybe 9mm Win Mag back in the late '80s/early '90s.
The .30 carbine is not bad as a stopper on predators when loaded with JHPs. For something thin-skinned like cats, you could even load with JHPs with thinner jackets like those for the .30 cal pistols. A better option might be one of the Ruger 44 autoloaders, if you could get it to function with a modern equivalent of SuperVels (or even Glasers).
The .30 carbine is not bad as a stopper on predators when loaded with JHPs. For something thin-skinned like cats, you could even load with JHPs with thinner jackets like those for the .30 cal pistols. A better option might be one of the Ruger 44 autoloaders, if you could get it to function with a modern equivalent of SuperVels (or even Glasers).
todd
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richhodg66
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I like the M1 Carbine. Spent a bunch of times in cramped tracked vehicles and an M1 Carbine sure would have been a lot easier to manipulate around than an M16 was.
I've never used on in a gun fight, but I really look at the ballistics and believe that loaded with bullets which expand rather than the FMJs the military has to use, the .30 Carbine would be a decent manstopper if called upon to do so. It generates the energy a .357 does and should carry it further.
They sure are a lot of fun to shoot. A lot of time at the reloading press can go up in smoke real fast at the range.
I've never used on in a gun fight, but I really look at the ballistics and believe that loaded with bullets which expand rather than the FMJs the military has to use, the .30 Carbine would be a decent manstopper if called upon to do so. It generates the energy a .357 does and should carry it further.
They sure are a lot of fun to shoot. A lot of time at the reloading press can go up in smoke real fast at the range.