ATV/UTV

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Recently purchased a 2017 Polaris Ranger 570 EPS.....top of the Ranger line, mostly because it has power steering.
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It ran @ 17K OTD. Full coverage enclosed cab with tilt out windshield. That also includes a brush guard, winch, plow mount and a steel plow. Much cheaper than the 2015 Chevy Colorado 4x4 pickup, I bought for wifey. Something in the neighborhood of 35K...with my GM Discount.

Went with Polaris because I heard good things about them and they have a dealer in this area (<10 miles away) that has a good reputation and has been around a long time. Son took over his Father's business after he died. We had a Kawasaki dealer that closed it's doors as well as a Arctic Cat. The Kawasaki Mule had no trailer hitch available.:confused: So that was out of the question. There is also a Yamaha dealership but they were more interested in selling other toys, rather than UTV's......actually told me to drive 60 miles to the Harrison dealership to look/purchase one. WTF.

I thought about using the wife's pickup but trails would have to be widened and after Rick buried his, on my property....I nixed that idea. Ground (red clay) is too soft, in places, especially after rains. Tractor was another option but it wouldn't fit in my garage and I didn't want to become a farmer.

I can access about 75% of my 26 acres, except for some rather steep and boulder strewn areas......10" of ground clearance, isn't enough. I use a "Hitch Hauler" in the 2" receiver hitch but it will drag at the dry creek crossing.....so much that bought a hitch extension with a 6" offset. IMO, I don't think sound is an issue. No louder than a lawnmower or chain saw. Neither, bother deer, in my area. My acreage runs along a HWY and the semis apply their jake brakes, frequently.

Overall, I like my purchase and mostly use it for property maintenance. I can put my self propelled lawn mower in the hitch hauler...... add the weed wacker, gas can and other tools in the dump bed and haul it to the far end of the property to mow the other drive and meadow. Also gets it's use for hauling my guns, targets and copious amounts of ammo........ to and fro, my backyard shooting range.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I have an old Suzuki samurai waiting for me .
Basically a 2/3 scale J2 Jeep . 89 CID they came to dealers on 205/75-15s but will pull 235s . The early 84-89s share most of the Jeep mind set , I think 84-84 even had laydown wind shields . I can't remember but they're only like 58" fender to fender and tip in empty about 1600# .
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
So much for memory

Samurai 1986 Specifications
General
Vehicle type Two-door, hard and soft top
Vehicle class Sport / utility
Powertrain layout Front engine, four-wheel drive
Body structure Body with chassis frame
Body material Steel
Seating capacity Four
Suspension
Front Leaf spring solid axle
Rear Leaf spring solid axle
Steering
Steering gear box Manual ball nut
Turning radius 16.7 ft. (5.1 m)
Toe in 0.08 - 0.24 in. (2 - 6 mm)
Caster angle 3º 30'
King pin angle 9º 00'
Brakes
Type Power-assisted hydraulic
Front Disc, floating caliper
Rear Drum leading and trailing
Parking brake Lever-hand operated
Wheels and Tires
Wheel Type Steel
Wheel size 15 x 5" (381 x 127 mm)
Tire type All-season, steel-belted radial
Tire size P205/70R15
Spare size Full-size
Front hubs
JA Manual/Automatic
JX Manual/Automatic
Restraint System
Safety belts Front and rear lap / shoulder belts
Fuel Economy
EPA Estimates - Manual
City 23 MPG
Highway 25 MPG
EPA Estimates - Automatic
City 21 MPG
Highway 24 MPG
Engine
Type 1.3-liter, four-cylinder, in-line
8-valve OHC
Block material Aluminum
Bore x Stroke 2.91 in. x 3.03 in. (74 mm x 77 mm)
Displacement 80.8 cu. in. (1.3 liter)
Compression ratio 8.9:1
Induction system Carburetor
Horsepower (SAE net) 60 hp @ 6500 rpm (45 kw)
Torque (SAE net) lb.-ft. @ 3500 rpm
Manual Transmission
Type Five-speed, all synchromesh
Clutch Dry, single disc, diaphragm spring
Gear ratios
1st 3.652
2nd 1.947
3rd 1.423
4th 1.000
5th 0.795
Reverse 3.466
Transfer gear ratios
Low (4WD) 2.268
High 1.409
Differential ratio 373.1
Capacities / Calculated Data
Engine oil 7.4 U.S. pt. (3.5 liters)
Fuel tank 10.6 U.S. gal. (40.3 liters)
Engine coolant 10.69 U.S. pt. (5 liters)
Transmission oil
Manual (4WD) 2.76 U.S. pt. (1.3 liters)
Differential gear oil
Front 4.2 U.S. pt. (2.0 liters)
Rear 3.2 U.S. pt. (1.5 liters)
Transfer gear box oil 1.7 U.S. pt. (0.8 liter)
Exterior Dimensions
Wheelbase 79.9 in. (2030 mm)
Tread width
Front 51.2 in. (1300 mm)
Rear 51.6 in. (1310 mm)
Overall Length 135.0 in. (3430 mm)
Overall Width (Body) 60.2 in. (1530 mm)
Overall Height 65.6 in. (1665 mm)
Minimum ground clearance 8.1 in. (205 mm)
205/70-15 to 235/75-15 from 22" to 28" will raise the axle 2.5-3" based on brand case and tread design . 235/75-15 hight based on a 15x7 wheel . On wheels they are 5 on 5.5 and Ford , Dodge , Jeep etc big pattern 5 lug are all good to go .
Curb Weight
Manual 2094 lb. (942 kg)
Gross Vehicle Wt. Rating 2923 lb. (1315 kg)
Gross Axle Wt. Rating
Front 1257 lb. (566 kg)
Rear 1675 lb. (754 kg)
Interior Dimensions
Rear cargo
Length 32.5 in (826 mm)
Width 50.0 in. (1270 mm)
Height 40.2 in (1021 mm)

The side kick/Geo is wider and more car like with independent front coils .

The back seat folds up and leave about a 36" square "bed" area . Many come with A/C and skads of available parts .

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JSH

Active Member
The big Polaris Grizzly is not for the faint of heart, nor an inexperienced rider. They are a brute to say the least. You are lucky if they spin out before crawling up the side of somthing. As mentioned they are not lite by any means.

There are those little mini trucks made over seas. They were some what popular several years back. I know of one dealer that sold over a dozen to one ranch in western Kansas. All of them had heaters, some had AC. The remind me of the old jeep cab over with the box bed.
The last couple I have seen for sale were either set up like some kind of pimped out ride or totally trashed, yet they all seem to ask the same kind of price. Parts may be an issue as well.
Jeff
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
I've had a Kawasaki 750i Brute ATV for seven years. It's been great and I wouldn't trade for it. Never had a problem with it.
A lot of guys on my deer lease have smaller ATVs and after driving mine, wish they had bought a bigger one. This has a lot of power and then some! Pulled my brothers stuck F150 out with it once.
The only drawbacks are it will not fit inside the 5'-8" bed of my crew cab pickup, so it has to be towed on a trailer and it is a little heavy. I can't just pick up the front or back and slide it over by myself.
I've been in all kinds of mud and sand and never been stuck or really needed the 4 wheel drive. Just put it in 4 wheel drive to cross deep creeks or climb really steep terrain (don't tell my wife I do this).
I only wish it had power steering, but then again, that have it's own drawbacks as it might be too sensitive in certain situations.
I think the size makes it more comfortable to ride. Think of a Harley on the road instead of a dirt bike. Rides two people very comfortably.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
buddy has the entry level polaris ranger, 40 hp. works for his 120 acres but it's flat land. Only maintenance he's had to do is keep the mice and wasps out of the elec. system. Runs good, rides OK - red dirt so he doesn't go to his place when wet - PU will get stuck. It's not a rock climber or tractor but will go up hills OK.
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
By the way, my 750i has racks front and aft, but does not have a lot of room for larger tools or hauling a lot of supplies, so we built a small 4"x 8" trailer (think sheet of plywood) with tall wheels to haul stuff around, if needed. If not, I have a more maneuverable vehicle without the trailer.
The trailer was made from a small boat trailer we got for nearly nothing, some 1-1/2" inch angle iron from old bed frames and 3/4" plywood. You couldn't enter it in a Hot Rod Show, but it looks pretty good and serves its purpose.
It won't haul a full size vehicle, but will easily haul another disabled ATV/UTV, post hole diggers, sacks of concrete, lumber, deer stands, feeder corn, deer, hogs, anything we would need to move on the property.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Jeezless, $17K for a UTV??? It had better have GPS, trailside service, and free maintenance for five years, leather seats and dual butt-warmers for that kind of dough. Cool if you can afford it, but for most of us that's just crazy money. For getting the mail and other little chores on decent roads I use an ancient 36-Volt Club Car with street tires.

I was also going to recommend the Geo Tracker as a UTV, can be had for a couple grand and if you run them every week or two the maintenance is nil once you get it fixed up to where it does what you need. Still wider than a real UTV though. The 'Zuks are good too, but getting hard to find parts outside of expensive aftermarket 4-wheeling upgrades.
 

Tony

Active Member
I can not come up with $17k right now with everything else I'm spending money on in an attempt to get this place more or less functional. I'm having the meadows bush hogged right now. I took a brief tractor ride after lunch today and much of my property is more easily accessible than I remembered. At this point I'll look into an ATV.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
you might be able to find a smaller older tractor they will go almost anywhere an ATV will go.
when I got my first Elk here in Id. I was fairly close to home so I went down and got the old [1948] Allis Chalmers and drove it up the canyon and fetched the elk down.[about 10 miles away]
I couldn't drive right up to it.
but I could get fairly close and had no problem playing a long rope up the hill then dragging the elk down, before using the hydraulics to pick it up then carrying it home.
I didn't have a 4 wheeler at the time, and the little tractor was sure a lot handier around the place.
it was also a bunch cheaper at 400$.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Polaris, as does GM, allows one to go to their site and build their own vehicle. You will get a price reflective of the MSRP. The dealer sets his profit margin. In my case, my build was very close to MSRP. The savings is realized on the options. My dealer installs all options for free. Polaris ships the unit as "bare bones".

Used is always an option. Personally, I don't want or need the drama and headaches, involved with previously owned vehicles. Always bought new and never ever bought one out of inventory. I want exactly what I want and not what someone else thinks I need. End of the year closeouts are discounted but not enough to make up for depreciation. Choice is limited. Forget, top of the line models.....they've been gone, for some time.

I looked into Kubota tractors. Would have cost as much or more..... and there was no way I could get it in my garage.
 
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freebullet

Guest
Jeezless, $17K for a UTV???

Haha, exactly! I won't spend that much on a personal vehicle, business equipment yeah but, a toy, no deal.

can not come up with $17k right now

What is the budget? That might help folks tell you specific used atvs to watch for that have bulletproof reputation or at least steer ya away from junk.

Fiver made a great point about the old tractor. Combine that tractor with a fat tire mini or dirt bike would be a though to beat versatile combo. Like a tw200 or something.

That one I built for less than 1500 with a new parts save for the 3whlr front, which I rebuilt. I used it 3 years & sold it for 2k. The fella bought it wanted it because he didn't have to cut trails to use it. It is electric start to. He was also buying a horse, that's a nice combo to.

Another friend bought a used fat tire bike for 300, we restored it, fixed the gearing, so it could crawl & he was only in for 700 when done.

With the gearing @ 45:1 & a 6.5hp engine the wheel seen 300hp. It could crawl around like low range, but ya better hang on if you pegged the throttle. They just sip fuel either way.

If your handy with a wrench you ought to be able to get something fairly unstoppable for 1500$. If not buy the newest best one you can afford, with the best reputation.
 

Tony

Active Member
freebullet,

Answering your question is a bit complicated right now. I'm trying to complete improvements to my existing place and all bids are not yet in. I'm also going to make an offer on the 18 acres "next door". My best guess is $10-12K for something new. I briefly considered buying a tractor. A new JD 1025 with front end loader, drive on belly mower and small bush hog is about $25k. I can hire out all the tractor work I will need for around $1k a year. I would rather have a dedicated mower and ATV.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Wait a minute.

Get Smokeywolf to buy the place next door instead, and con HIM into buying a tractor...as long as he'll rent it to you for wheel weights or whatever ;)

Then you'll have a good neighbor, won't have to worry about buying extra isolation land, less to take care of/pay taxes on, and you can spend more money on a ranch buggy that suits you.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I had a horse and still walked unless I was going up for 10-15 days.
and even then I usually just had the horse carry my stuff.
I would day ride her out for hunts from camp or on the ridgelines so I could cover distance better but that was about it.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
The day is coming when Brad will understand, he just needs to get past the little whipper snapper stage. :D
 

Tony

Active Member
Ian, your post has considerable merit. However, as soon as smokeywolf reads it he will regard me as a con-artist, not to be trusted and a bad neighbor. Oh well.