Ben's Liquid Lube

Ian

Notorious member
You'll have over a quart of finished lube with one can of wax. One teaspoon will lube 500 bullets. If it loses its solvents over time, add mineral spirits. Don't worry about running out just yet.
 

mmorris

New Member
Let's see, 192 teaspoons per quart times 500 bullets equals 96,000 bullets.
Yes, it's clear I will run short of primers first ;)

Thanks for the objective viewpoint. I feel much more relaxed, now.
 

Ben

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Staff member
Like I've said so MANY times already.

BLL goes a long way...............................................
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
if used properly most tumble lubes do.
I'm still working on the first pint of 50-50-50 lube I made as part of the original 45/45/10 lube tests waaay back when.
I probably can do another 6/7-k 45-70 boolits, before I even need to think about doing another batch.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Let's see, 192 teaspoons per quart times 500 bullets equals 96,000 bullets.
Yes, it's clear I will run short of primers first ;)

Thanks for the objective viewpoint. I feel much more relaxed, now.

Yeah, I'd be a LOT more worried about being below six figures on primers than running out of floor wax. As long as bees exist and Fiver has a job in his profession you'll never have to worry about being able to make conventional lube to fall back on.
 

fiver

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well I ain't got that job anymore, but the bees are still out there doing their thing.
when I left NO-Dak they were putting out over a million barrels a day, so I think the base liquid will still be available for a long time without me.
[when I got there they were hauling it out in cups and jars so I musta got something right]
what you gotta worry about is when I am working full tilt, that means your gas is selling for 3.50+ a gallon.
 

Kevin Stenberg

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My quest for the H Grail has been accomplished. I have concurred my foe's that keep hiding the grail before I can get to the shelves they are on. I found 2 more cans and I even left 3 cans on the shelves. I can now live a contented life.
 

quicksylver

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Would it be considered hoarding if one had eight cans?

Easy enough to come by around here....just don't really know how much I need.

It took around 4-5K bullets to get to ( not use, just to) the last 1/4 of the bottle I made up.
 

Ben

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I have eight, I'd say that is a nice round number to stop on. ( I bought another can since this photo was taken )

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mmorris

New Member
I just located several at a rural (small town) Ace Hardware store. The guy said that they would have more on Monday. Perhaps he is unaware of the shortage?:)

Small town hardware stores might be the last places to scour.

I have five cans, and a new clause in my Will. :)
 

35 shooter

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Hoarding or not....if i see it on the shelf, it's coming home with me. There is not one doubt in my mind about just how good BLL really is.

Well below zero to 105* with 112 to 115* heat index with no change in group size.
Officially my favorite lube now. I think it will perform in much hotter temps, but that's about as hot as it gets in my corner. Another member here did the cold weather testing.

Lol i'll give fair warning here and now.....
If you see it on the shelf and want to try it, pick it up, because if i see it......it's GONE!!!
 
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Lost Dog

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Funny thing. Was discussing this mixture with one of my loading buddy neighbors while researching a suitable substitute for the floor finish. Being new to loading, and of course never casting, he asked why blend floor finish with "Exlax"?:eek: After I finally stopped laughing I explained about Alox. He had one of those "oh yeah, I get it now " looks later. But Exlax might ease some of the bloated and discomfort associated with compressed loads and the like. :rolleyes:
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
xlox and alox are the same.
Glen changed the name so LEE would quit crying about it.
oh except I don't think white label adds more mineral spirits thinning it down they let you do that and make more out of the jug.
 

mmorris

New Member
... I don't think white label adds more mineral spirits thinning it down they let you do that and make more out of the jug.
It seems that various bottles of alox may have had different degrees of loss of volatile solvents during storage, and that some manufacturers add different amounts of solvents, or no solvents at all. Does this affect the 60/40 mix ratio, and if so, are there any easily identifiable attributes of the correct viscosity of the final mixture?
Or am I overthinking this?
 
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Ben

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mmorris :

No, you're not overthinking things in the least.

I ordered a Lee Sizer die that had a bottle of Lee Alox in the red plastic container.

Guess, what ..........the Alox wouldn't even come out of the bottle.
The Alox must flow like waffle / pancake syrup in order for my 60/40 ratio to be applied and have any hope at all that you'll end up with the correct viscosity for BLL.

REMEMBER, once you make BLL, the container that you keep it in must be an air tight seal fit ! !

Ben
 

Ian

Notorious member
The liquid Alox/pancake syrup analogy is about right. Most of what LLA I have left is old and had to be thinned and nuked and thinned some more and stirred with a stick and nuked until it was too hot to hold before it would even pour out of the bottle. When I got it liquid I added more mineral spirits so it was like axle gear oil when it cooled. THEN I added the floor wax at 40% to the "revived" LLA and it's perfect.

I do have a brand new, recent bottle of LLA that I just opened a few minutes ago and it's almost solid. I think Lee is drying it out to meet a shipping requirement. Someone caught on that the size/lube kits contained a "no-no" ingredient for air shipping and it became a hazmat item for a while, which stopped people buying it. Something changed and now it's just a ground restriction. About that time we started reading complaints about it being dried out in the bottle.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Guys,
When I get a bottle of Alox like that I will slowly add some Naphtha to it and shake until I get it like syrup Then I will make up a batch of BLL.
Doesn't affect the drying of BLL ( maybe improves it somewhat)
I find Naphtha works better then Mineral sprits and evaporates much quicker. I also have a dispensing bottle of it ( Naphtha) in my loading room to clean up fingers an such.
I put a few drops on a piece of cloth or paper towel and wipe the bases of the bullets to be loaded over it to remove any lube that is on the base before loading.
Cleans great an drys in seconds.
Jim
 

Ben

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Keep this a secret fellows..........I've been know to thin Lee Liq Alox with gasoline. I've done it for years. WORKS ! !