Bullet Seating, the Two Step Dance

Jeff H

NW Ohio
It depends for me.

All cast bullets:

If I'm doing 44 Specials, the die is set for the Lyman 429421. The brass is all the same length and doesn't seem to stretch, so I seat/crimp at the same time. The crimp groove in that bullet is so ridiculously large that the case mouth doesn't dig in and plow lead in the last few thousandths of seating, so it works out just fine. I don't do rompin'-stompin' loads or shoot much past 50 yards any more and minor things which don't have much effect at the shorter distances are omitted.

If I'm doing 357s with wadcutters, I seat/crimp together.

Bottle-neck rifle (30/30 single-shot, 222R bolt-action), I don't crimp at all.

357 Mags and Maxes, for the rifle, or 357 Mags for revolver AND rifle, I seat and crimp separately, especially for heavier loads. THEN, I use the LEE factory collet crimp die.

When I DO seat/crimp at the same time, I turn the seating die out just enough that it it doesn't crimp. This leaves the bullet seated long, so I adjust the seating stem until I get the seating depth I want. Then, I hold the seating stem still with one hand and turn the die body down separately. Easy on LEE dies. If a tweak is needed after turning the die body down to crimp, it's usually not enough to plow lead with the case mouth.

I prefer the collet crimp die over a roll crimp, so that dictates separate steps. I really like that die though

The only jacketed I still shoot is the 223 in a single-shot and I don't crimp that one at all.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I only NEED to crimp for the lever guns an honestly that's only enough to catch up the crimp groove so I don't telescope in the tube magazine. As far as I know I've never had one walk in an AR mag .
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I only NEED to crimp for the lever guns an honestly that's only enough to catch up the crimp groove so I don't telescope in the tube magazine. As far as I know I've never had one walk in an AR mag .
I have with my Armalite AR-10 carbine. Discovered that when I was making dummy rounds and manually cycling them. The only reliable bullet is one with a spitzer or very miniscule meplat. All others hang up on the lug cuts. Only rifle round I crimp. Might be because that's my only centerfire semi auto.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
6.8 SPCII ARP barrel with a matched Super Bolt . I'm not sure I could hang up a 10mm WC the ramp , it looks like chromed greased glass . Both it and the 556 Delton have the polished M4 style , ARP just took it a step further. Both load to 2.260 . Maybe there's not enough room for them to move .