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Rally Hess

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Went to a small out of the way shop about 40 miles from home. I've been trying to catch the place when it was open, for at least a couple years. Drive by it most often on Sundays, when they are closed. The wife and I were on a short road trip, and it was Saturday, so figured I'd check it out. Little bit of everything, not a lot of anything. Table set up in one corner for the local crowd. Got to talking with the owner and seemed like a decent guy. Display in the center of the room with this 5 lb can of SR 4756, not priced. Ask him what he wants for it, and he said it belonged to one of the regulars, whom wasn't loading shotgun anymore. Said he would take $20.00 for it!! I said it was worth more than that, so he says how about $30.00?? OK. Showed me these bags of shot the guy brought in, and of course they weren't priced either. There was a new bag of #5's and 37 lbs of mag BB. Bought powder and shot for $56.00. I'm guessing the guy was a duck/goose hunter at one time when lead was legal. Owner said the stuff had been there "awhile", and he was glad to see it gone.
 

Rally Hess

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They would have been taking me to the ER to have my shoulder relocated!

That could be where I end up too. I'm loading the BB's in a 3" 12(Berreta 3901). A 1 3/8 oz load running 1390 fps. I use it shooting beaver over open water. Really rolls them over and easy to find them, but definitely obvious on my end,when I pull the trigger.

Rick,
I'm not sure I paid for the Mag 2's even at todays shot prices. I was pretty tickled just finding the BB's because it is getting hard to find any large shot anymore around here, since all the steel requirements were enacted for waterfowl. There were a few years between the steel and lead requirements, where lead was still legal for geese over fields. I'm guessing that is probably when this person bought this stuff.
Speaking of which, I have an appointment with a beaver dam.
 

fiver

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56$ would just barely cover the price of a bag of shot.
especially up where your at.

that 4756 is a really good handgun powder too.
I used it in my 45 colt Lever gun to take my first Idaho Deer, and 1-2 others since then.

those #5's would work pretty well on the upland birds you got wandering around.
some of our 5-6lb Pine grouse will shrug off a load of 7-1/2's that the ruffed grouse just roll over from.
I keep some #6's loaded to 1250 fps for those bigger guy's.
 

quicksylver

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#5...we're the love of my life for a long long time ..until they banned lead...surprisingly difficult to come by back then..got about that much of 4756 and haven't tried it in anything yet...

Good to know deals like that can still be found if one looks hard enough ..congrats...win win for everyone...
 

Rally Hess

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I've also shot a lot of 5's, when puddle jumping ducks, because it worked well in the 16 gauges I was shooting. Now days I use it in a 12 when it gets windy in SD while pheasant hunting. Last few years I've been buying it at Gary's gun shop in Sioux Falls, SD when I'm there. They carried the Black Diamond brand in real hard shot. Best patterns I've ever gotten. Was there last summer and all they had was a couple bags of standard 8's in the whole shop. Said they were also feeling the shortage and freight was terrible. I've really got enough loaded to last several years anyway. I mainly shoot hard six's in my 20's for pheasant. Love the way that Lt20 A5 sounds on a crisp December morning. December sure seems like a long ways away this time of year. Tics are getting bad too so a constant reminder.
Saw a big male wolf at my beaver contract today. They sure look rough this time of year. He'd been leaving "calling cards" in the trails to the ponds. I caught a glimpse of him coming up a low draw from the East in the center of the slash. He had to cross the road in front of me and didn't seem too worried about me or my quad. His female should have pups in den now, so I've been leaving some beaver fleshings near one of the beaver dams. Left about four gallons so the pups should enjoy that. Probably a shock to their senses when they see how much water I've moved out of that country in the last week.
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This is the main road going into the property. The pipe you can see is the overflow pipe. Out of sight and closer to the camera is a 36" culvert still covered. The beaver plugged both and the water breached the road and washed out the culvert. To the East (left in picture) is the Hill River about a 1/4 mile which this flowage empties into. To the West (right in picture) and then south are two smaller creeks both leading to separate beaver ponds. For about 3/8 of a mile, on both creeks, the beaver had flooded, with four minor dams built, and two major dams built within the flowage.
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Heres a better picture of the dam at the culvert and how much water it is holding. You can just see the top of the overflow culvert in the center of the dam. That used to be about a foot below grade, but is now support on the remains of the dam at one end and laying in a washed out depression on the other end.
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This picture is the same location but looking farther to the south. That is a new slash this last winter, due to storm damage from last July's tornado. If you look close at the road adjacent to it you'll see there is water running across the road, and everything to the West (right) is also flooded.
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This is the same culvert two days ago,after I removed the beaver(5), and cleaned it out so I could release the water in the main pond.
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This is the main dam about midway through, and after I've released about 4 feet of water. I lowered it about another 3 feet today, and should about get it back to the natural level.
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This is looking out onto the main pond with the beaver lodge in the center. When I started this contract last week all you can see to the tree line, and beyond, was flooded. The mud clump in the foreground is the remnant of a beaver house I cleaned out about 10 years ago. I do this contract about every two years or so. If you look real close at the beaver house, you can see the water line, where the water level was, about three feet down from the top. That pile of sticks is out front of the house and attached to it is the beavers "cache" or feed supply for the winter. The hole under it, leading into the house is the main entrance. Note the void in the bottom below the cache and out from the house. That is where the mud came from to construct the house and make room for the cache, the top 24" of which will be frozen in the winter, so they dig it out so they have access to the cache when it freezes. Good to know if your on thin ice!! Guess how I know that.
 
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35 Whelen

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Seems like SR4756 is the deal of the day lately. Taking delivery of 10lb's remaining from a 12 pound keg today. A fellow in Alberta was clearing an estate sale....said it looked and smelled OK. Sold it to me for $20, plus $30 for shipping. For $50 thought I would take a chance.

PS.....arrived this afternoon. Looked great not much of that ether/acetone smell, but when I burned a small pile the size of a silver dollar and compared it to a fresh can of 4756 is sure looked like it burned at the same rate ( not very scientific I know ) Hopefully it will work well
 
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fiver

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dang!
those Beaver are serious.
ours around here must be pretty lazy, they just slow the water up enough to build some houses.
it's rare to see a dam more than 3-4' high and over 20' wide.
 

Brad

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My parents had some land in northern MO. Nice 6 acre pond that beavers liked. They did all they could to plug the overflow tube. Industrious little critters.
 

Rally Hess

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Here you go Fiver. If you look at this picture you will see a Balsam tree with real pointy top. That is where this beaver dam starts and I'm about 60' out from the opposite side when I took the picture. Part of a contract I did last summer so they could access the timber last winter. I removed 32 beaver and 7 dams from this one in 2.3 miles of ditch. This was cause for @ 12 square miles of flooded timber. Skeeters were horrible.
 

Pistolero

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Beavers can sure make a mess. I ran into beaver ponds a few times backpacking up in Alaska, learned a few hard lessons. Like, that shallow
looking swampy pond will NOT be OK to wade through. About 200 yds in, you will find the raceway where he hauls his branches, and it
will be 3 dt wide and more than belly button deep on me, bad with a heavy pack.
Learned to give up, make a BIG detour around when we found a beaver pond up in flat AK country. It was way easier to walk an extra
mile or two than to try to wade thru what often looked just like a marshy area with a few hundred trees in it, only a foot deep and lots
of greenery.......or not.

That is a more obvious pond, not suggestive to try to wade across.

Bill
 

Rally Hess

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Bill,
I learned many years ago that no matter what I was wearing, hip boots, chest waders, or a wet suit, the beaver runs would be at least two inches deeper!! The beavers revenge.
 

Rally Hess

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Chris,
I'd question the articles basis. I'm aware of several beaver dams that are that long, and the amount of water they hold is substantial. I'm working on a contract now that has two beaver dams on it, one 350' and one 500'. The beaver are using the logging road as a base for their dams. The forestry has the timber sold and my job is to remove the beaver (19 so far) and then the water, so the road will be ready next spring for a major road rebuild. I have pictures of both dams in my phone but I'm not sure how to get them on my puter. I'm going to move the water tomorrow and will try to remember my digital camera so I can get pictures in this puter.
Much of the country I live/ trap in looks much like the article, but with more trees. Lots of extensive bogs with islands of trees. If you were to get on Google Earth and look up the Hill City, Mn. area(NW of Duluth) or Itasca, Aitkin, Cass, and St Lois counties, it would resemble the pictures in the article. Nice country if you have webbed feet or are a beaver trapper :).