High velocity cast .308 @ 500 yards

waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
The results are so so. A big thank you to all who have helped me out with this process. Fiver, Ian, Brad, Popper, Ben, Dan, 35 Shooter, I'm sure I missed some guys. I'm sorry. So. Here are the first attempts at shooting cast .308 bullets at a 12" square steel target at 500 yards.
I have learned that speed is your friend at this distance. If the bullet goes from super to sub sonic before you reach the target.......good luck hitting anything.

Three bullets tested. All NOE molds
312299
Saeco 315 copy
30 XCB

IMR 4831 charged all of the bullets today.

The first two mentioned were cast by me. The xcb bullet was donated by Fiver. Wanna talk some sweet numbers?.......
I loaded these with 46gr of said powder.
Five shots over the Chrony gave these results
2265,2257,2257,2265,2256
ES-9
SD-4.09

This was obviously the winner at the 500 yard plate today. Did I mention I'm buying this mold?...:p
PLEASE watch the video. I had a limited number of rounds loaded today. (I wasn't sure how well they would shoot)

The one five shot group I fired at 100 yards was not spectacular but, 3 shots in one hole and two in the other. My guess was it was me, not the load.
Anyway. Please watch and give me your feedback. We are slowly gaining interest on YouTube.

I gave Artfulbullet a shout out. Hope to bring in some new blood.
 
gman

gman

Well-Known Member
No it doesn’t. Waiting on weather to shoot some 44 mag for accuracy @ 100. Just when you think your done...............
 
Brad

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Damn fine shooting! Videos are looking good too.

Thanks for the shout out about the forum.
 
waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Brad said:
Damn fine shooting! Videos are looking good too.

Thanks for the shout out about the forum.
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You know I’m going to give the forum love. You guys do so much for us. For me. We always need new blood right?
 
J

JSH

Active Member
Don't get to shook up about the bigger groups at 100. I see this with my F class 308. Good friend has a 6BR that does the same as mine only worse, yet at 1k both settle down.
Jeff
 
Eutectic

Eutectic

Active Member
Excellent job on the video waco (and company) I was particularly impressed with the visible flight! Trajectory very much visible! I think subsonic 'shakes' could even be seen maybe?? I saw one that went right that seemed to shudder slightly when almost there. Give us some more waco!! You are definitely 'breaking' new ground!

Pete
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
Short barreled factory .308 with bare cast bullets at 500 yards, and 2200 fps mv? Do you know how many rules you broke there?

:rofl:

We can explain how to load cast bullets for HV shooting until the cows come home, but until you actually get out there and start trying things for yourself, it will never really make sense. I'm really impressed with the distance shooting and very interested by your results from transonic buffeting.
 
waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Thanks for all the compliments guys. It was a fun day. I’ve been wanting to try this for sometime and had just never got around to doing it. The two loads I didn’t show both got a couple hits. VERY inconsistent. You could see them twisting and turning at the end.
The XCB bullet @ 2260 I think was just barely enough. My ballistics program showed it staying super sonic out to 525. How accurate is this? Not sure.
As a side note. I posted the same vid over on the other site. Almost 100 views and only one comment! :rofl:
Then I remembered that I gave a shout out for this website! Lol.
I’m waiting for them to close the thread!
 
Chris

Chris

Well-Known Member
Really interesting and a great video. Thanks. Are you weighing bullets, selecting brass, using brass prep tricks, benchrest-type stuff?
 
fiver

fiver

Well-Known Member
uhhhm I didn't weight sort those I just grabbed them out of the container from the first batch out of the mold.

with your throat shape I'm kind of surprised, but the run up doesn't seem to be affecting everything you throw at it.
the nose shape makes a huge difference in that regard.[it's kind of like dealing with a 5.56]
they were lubed with my moly complex BTW.
 
358156 hp

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
If I might make one minor suggestion as to your video content. I (personally) would like to see a little more technical content including details like bullet alloy, lube, seating depth, and small details like that. There will be people who will want short cuts to the results you're getting and, how to hopefully duplicate the point you've worked up to so far as their starting point. We all know that load development starts at the very beginning, but that point is often lost on the internet, perhaps a data card for the loads used, similar to the card you use to show the group results, or maybe a slight expansion of that card to give a little more info. At the other end of the spectrum, don't be so technical as to detract from the actual "action" sequences that people watch the videos to enjoy. You guys are producing some great videos, and I look forward to your next one.
 
waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Chris said:
Really interesting and a great video. Thanks. Are you weighing bullets, selecting brass, using brass prep tricks, benchrest-type stuff?
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Chris. Bullets were sorted out to weigh between 168.7-169gr
Brass was once fired Nosler that had been annealed and FL sized and trimmed.
The primer pockets and flash holes in the Nosler brass is pretty consistent. I didn't do anything to them.
 
waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Fiver. These were your XCB's, Not the Accurate design. I was able to seat these out to jam the lands and still have a lot of bullet in the case neck.
30 XCB 46gr IMR4831
2265,2257,2257,2265,2256
Avg 2260
ES 9
SD 4.09
 
waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
358156 hp said:
If I might make one minor suggestion as to your video content. I (personally) would like to see a little more technical content including details like bullet alloy, lube, seating depth, and small details like that. There will be people who will want short cuts to the results you're getting and, how to hopefully duplicate the point you've worked up to so far as their starting point. We all know that load development starts at the very beginning, but that point is often lost on the internet, perhaps a data card for the loads used, similar to the card you use to show the group results, or maybe a slight expansion of that card to give a little more info. At the other end of the spectrum, don't be so technical as to detract from the actual "action" sequences that people watch the videos to enjoy. You guys are producing some great videos, and I look forward to your next one.
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This is the plan for sure for a future video. All about how I assembled the loads.
We didn't want to cram too much into one video. I know a lot of times I'll skip past a 45 min video because......well.....It's 45 min....:D
 
fiver

fiver

Well-Known Member
you'll be able to get the same design from AL.
just be sure to take some careful measurements on the nose back to the first drive band.
I have been known to make slight alterations to a mold from time to time.
 
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