I gone and done it...first lathe purchase!

Intheshop

Banned
I've said it before.....forklift damage and general rigging oops,has killed more machinery than just about anything else.Besides running a pce 3 shifts till it's beat to death.But that's an honorable ending.Dropping a lathe off a greasy set of forks.....just ain't right.

Put the lathe in the nursery,wife won't have to ask you to go check the baby.Put it in back gear,maybe touching the corner of the crib.......hummmmmm.
 

JSH

Active Member
Ian, if you set this up on a bench,mi suggest setting it high enough your standing straight rather than bending over.
One of those soft pads to put on the floor has been put to the top of the list.
MSC had magnetic base and indicator on sale for $29.
I went to harbor fright a while back, their 1" indicator alone would have been close to $20 with tax. I will spend my money else where.
Jeff
 

L1A1Rocker

Active Member
Now I probably will need a grinder....might as well get a tool grinder and not another bench grinder because my bench grinder has a 80-grit grey wheel for GP grinding and a white one on the other side that's reserved very strictly for pointing tungsten electrodes. I actually bought the second dresser just for that, plus, how often do you find an antique Ohio-made dresser with all the screws, shaft, plugs, and plates intact for six dollars? Even after dressing, I take a diamond dresser to knock the steel out of the grit, for if you get a single speck of steel stuck on a welding electrode it makes a big green plume and contaminates the puddle.

Harbor Freight no longer makes that cheep tool grinder like the one I rebuilt. Grizzly has them for around 350 or so. But I think those need to be re-worked too. Of course there's the 1K Baldors. . . .

I HIGHLY recomend a tool grinder for sharpening you bits. And a one inch belt grinder is almost a must for your custom ground HSS bits.

If you want to swing by this weekend to look through the stuff here feel free.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Although my apprenticeship was pretty comprehensive, when I was told that there were a couple of hundred drills in the tool crib that needed sharpening and I asked who was going to teach me to sharpen drills, I was told, "go buy a book". I did and by the time I'd sharpened 400-500 drills over the course of a couple of years, even the old timers were having me sharpen their drills. I could split a point freehand on drills as small as 3/32".

Anybody who can put a proper point on a drill bit isn't going to have any trouble grinding a toobit.

Bill, I too am a bit OCD about the kitchen knives. I use a combination of diamond and Japanese water stones for kitchen knives. Use diamond, ceramics and a extremely fine hard Arkansas for my straight razors.

Ian, I'm looking forward to seeing your first part(s) machined on your new lathe.


Here ya go, first part I ever made. I wanted to learn how to do inside threading because my next project is to make a spider. This is a scrap of flashlight tube, the only piece of aluminum tubing I had handy to play with this afternoon. Having no boring bar or HSS blanks to make one, I found a 1/2x13 tap with a couple of broken teeth and ground all but one tooth off of one side, then diamond filed the correct angles for 1-7/16x20. Then I ground a flat on the underside to keep it from twisting and get it to hold the correct angle to the work. After working on a cheap carbide boring bar for a while to get it sharp, I cut the minor diameter to depth and relieved to full thread depth plus a couple thousandths at the bottom of the hole, .100" wide at the bottom of the relief. My goal with this machine was to avoid having to thread toward the chuck, but there wasn't enough tooth on the RH tap to make a left hand tool so I did it the way most people do and set up a dial indicator for zero, and zeroed the carriage dial at the bottom of the hole plus put a grease pencil mark about .050" from the end to tell me when to throw out the half nuts. Try as I might, the part kept walking out of the chuck, so I had to find the threads again about 20 times, I guess I never did get the tube exactly centered in the steady rest, or .002" TIR is too much to keep the part from fretting out of the outside jaws in spite of me hanging the part in free air, indicating it in the jaws, and bringing the steady rest fingers up to the part without disturbing it in the jaws as I rotated the chuck by hand. Anyway, it worked, after a fashion, and I got a perfect fit with the battery end cap, no bind, no grind, and no wiggle. I was going to cut a thread relief and o-ring groove on the outside, but it's just a practice part so I chamfered the end slightly and called it good.

Don't laugh at my jury-rigged threading bar, it worked like a champ!

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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I have been doing some threading with the tool upside down and the lathe in reverse. Lets me thread away from the chuck.
The tap makes a good internal threading tool. The angles are right and it is certainly hard enough to cut.

Well done for a first run.
 

Ian

Notorious member
This lathe has the ability to run both the headstock and the leadscrew in either direction so I can reverse both and make RH internal threads away from the chuck with the tool right-side-up. The spindle isn't threaded (another reason for me buying this one instead of the slightly bigger models) so no worries about it spinning off in reverse. Unfortunately the tap tooth was relieved the wrong way to do that and not enough metal on it to reverse the relief and cut with the other side, plus it was angled for a 13 pitch and I had to take a good bit off to bring it more vertical for the 20 pitch and take the radius out of it. Engaging and disengaging the half nuts on odd numbers isn't as tough as I thought it would be, and I needed to learn how to run threads both ways anyhow so it worked out. Now I have to figure out how to set this thing up for 1.5x27mm threads. The spider should be easier because I can do it all the turning, facing, boring, and threading right at the chuck, no fighting with the steady rest and no internal shoulder to worry about.

You guys were right about how slick this slope is, sure is fun though!
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
Very nice job on grinding the tap into a single-point tool.
Although you can't see the cutting action at point of the tool, running your lathe tools upside down can sometimes be quite beneficial in keeping chips from piling up at the cutting point and being re-cut.

On I.D. work, inability to clear chips efficiently can result in heat buildup and your cutter re-cutting chips. Both of which can greatly shorten cutter life.
 
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freebullet

Guest
Congratulations, Ian.

Looks good 'nuff for me.

Some excellent tips here.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Cool idea for a thread cutter. Looks really good, Ian. As to slippery slope,
Ha! steeper and slicker than you can ever imagine.

I'm still pretty happy with my Shars insert tool holder set, but I do still use
hand (and precision grinder) ground HS cutters, too.

Bill