I think my bullets need to go faster
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burbank.jung
Active Member
What is your alloy and bhn? I've read of a bullet caster and hunter who would find his accuracy load given a certain alloy/bhn and then add lead until the printed groups started to expand.
Spindrift
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If they are GC'ed and coated, you can probably push them significantly harder than you're doing now.
But with increasing rotational velocity, recoil and muzzle blast, the consequences of imbalance, non- perfect bases or fit issues will be amplified.
Will it work at higher velocities? Only one way to find out! Have fun!
But with increasing rotational velocity, recoil and muzzle blast, the consequences of imbalance, non- perfect bases or fit issues will be amplified.
Will it work at higher velocities? Only one way to find out! Have fun!
What makes you think they need to go faster?
Is it a need or a want? Just curious.
I generally shoot just fast enough to get the job done. I find that pop cans and targets are pretty thin skinned and don’t take much killing. Now, if I was shooting at 2-300 yards then some more speed makes sense.
Is it a need or a want? Just curious.
I generally shoot just fast enough to get the job done. I find that pop cans and targets are pretty thin skinned and don’t take much killing. Now, if I was shooting at 2-300 yards then some more speed makes sense.
Cadillac Jeff
Well-Known Member
Yup!
If ya just want to burn more powder then put more in & start over.
How are they grouping at 1100 ?
Did you try fatter yet?
Do you intend to hunt with this?
Lots of questions with lots of different answers.
If ya just want to burn more powder then put more in & start over.
How are they grouping at 1100 ?
Did you try fatter yet?
Do you intend to hunt with this?
Lots of questions with lots of different answers.
RBHarter
West Central AR
Hahahaha .
Says the guy that's looking at full house loads as a possible solution to an unsatisfactory flat line ..........
PC or not full jacket velocities isn't a quest for the faint of heart .
Long ago I backed loads down to subs in 223 and 6.8 . It was just weird being under 4.0 Unique to get there with 62 & 130 gr bullets . Until the alloy rotational strength is reached just use slower powders and start where you ended with the last one .
With a substantially stronger alloy 18-19 up to 2100 shouldn't be too big a task , I did it and some days it feels like i was lucky to hit the berm .
Ian
Notorious member
I never found a speed limit besides chamber pressure limits for air cooled half #2 alloy if powder coated and gas checked. That alloy kills stuff right dead, too. 3100 in the .22, 2400 in the Swede, 2600 in the long .308, 2450 in the short .308, and so on. 1.5 MOA or better all day with no tricks other than neck sizing dies, custom expanders, and Forster in-line seating dies. Size to about a thousandth over groove diameter, load with about 1.5 to 2 thousandths neck "tension", give the bullet a little run at the throat, and enjoy.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Guy up the page that cant get it out of his head that Bhn is the hugest thing.
Michael
Active Member. Uh/What
I must be weird or something and I realize there are various reasons for light loads, cost, physical restrictions and the need to limit recoil, detachted retinas, etc. There is something enjoyable about the experience of taking a rifle or pistol for that matter and shooting it, feeling a nice comfortable push. Not saying I don't have a few click, poof, smack loads, and some that definitely get your attention. Experience vs activity i.e. a date with the gal in Tom T Hall's Corvette song vs your aunt's neighbor's best friend's daughter who is nice girl and a perfect 38. 38-38-38.
Re the OP, step things up a bit, it's all a learning process, take the chorus line and apply it to your rifles.
Re the OP, step things up a bit, it's all a learning process, take the chorus line and apply it to your rifles.
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fiver
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heck Michael at our ages a 38-down the board isn't too bad.
i'd poke sfun at Rick here,,, but he has a delete button... LOL
anyway once again i'm gonna recommend doing a big powder speed ladder.
pick a pressure, don't much matter which one 40-K 45-K probably good nuff in a rifle and easily achievable with pretty much everything.
start with bulls-eye or the like, and change nothing except the powder, riding your chosen pressure zone.
record and take notes.
you'll learn more from doing that than just about anything else you can play with.
i'd poke sfun at Rick here,,, but he has a delete button... LOL
anyway once again i'm gonna recommend doing a big powder speed ladder.
pick a pressure, don't much matter which one 40-K 45-K probably good nuff in a rifle and easily achievable with pretty much everything.
start with bulls-eye or the like, and change nothing except the powder, riding your chosen pressure zone.
record and take notes.
you'll learn more from doing that than just about anything else you can play with.
Michael
Active Member. Uh/What
I have a friend, and I care for him dearly, that searches the internet for the "magic" in whatever he shoots, or just randomly throws something together and when it comes to notes......
Drives me absolutely nuts. He burns through more components than I do and has very little to show for it, unless it's a lot random combinations that don't work.
Methodical testing/development and as fiver mentioned will produce results, both good and bad, and you don't have to go all anal on it. Be systematic on it and takes notes and record all of your load data. If something doesn't work, oh well, as if that never happened before.