If you could go to.....
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Kevin Stenberg
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A factory is a factory. But a 2 or 3 man shop that custom designs and produces a product. That is what I would like to see. Hey isn't that what our Tom has!!!! Hey Tom here I come.
358156 hp
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Harry Pope, or Parker Ackley.
If it needed to be a current production shop, it would have to be Q.
https://liveqordie.com/
If it needed to be a current production shop, it would have to be Q.
https://liveqordie.com/
fiver
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I think you'd be disappointed in what you found there.
much like watching the first Dan Wesson revolver being built on a kitchen table with a file.
if I had to pick a place I would spend a little time deciding between St.Etienne, and Paul/Peter Mauser's places.
I have been to Freedom Arms several times [before and after Dick was there] and spent quite a bit of my teenage years in Parker Ackley's place.
oscarflytyer
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oscarflytyer
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Wow...
Vintage Factory - Winchester/Sharps/Mauser/Colt/Marlin/Savage - pick one - in that order.
Current factory/custom shops- Turnbull/Wilson/Lee (molds - would love to be able to provide feedback!)/NOE/Ruger/Wyndham
I would trade ALL the current factories for a single vintage one!!!
If we are including individuals/shops...
Vintage - Mauser Brothers/John Browning/Samuel Colt/Elmer Keith/Ken Waters/Skeeter Skelton/COL Cooper
Current - Turnbull/Mike-Ranch Dog!/Kenny Jarrett/Wilson Combat
And last, but CERTAINLY NOT LEAST - and a friend of mine - Bob Levine! Custom knife maker/member of both NA and German Knife Maker's Guild/BP guru!/walking/living history!
Vintage Factory - Winchester/Sharps/Mauser/Colt/Marlin/Savage - pick one - in that order.
Current factory/custom shops- Turnbull/Wilson/Lee (molds - would love to be able to provide feedback!)/NOE/Ruger/Wyndham
I would trade ALL the current factories for a single vintage one!!!
If we are including individuals/shops...
Vintage - Mauser Brothers/John Browning/Samuel Colt/Elmer Keith/Ken Waters/Skeeter Skelton/COL Cooper
Current - Turnbull/Mike-Ranch Dog!/Kenny Jarrett/Wilson Combat
And last, but CERTAINLY NOT LEAST - and a friend of mine - Bob Levine! Custom knife maker/member of both NA and German Knife Maker's Guild/BP guru!/walking/living history!
oscarflytyer
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Included Wilson/Left Les Baer out. remiss...
Rally Hess
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I'd like to go back far enough to tell John Moses Browning thanks for the A5. I'm pretty fond of the A5 in any gauge.
Eutectic
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Good one 358156 hp!!!
If we could glean even 10% of Pope's knowledge on making barrels (for cast) as well as making cast bullets shoot...... We would ALL be better for it!
Pete
In the early 80's I went to an interesting factory in Pa. Don't remember the name of the owner. They made tools there, the owner was the guy who made a concrete house. IIRC they had a steam engine for power and belt drives all over the place, making saws, files, axes, etc. IIRC it was some kind of museum.
edit: it was Mercer's house. A 2 wk goof off trip with Dad in 80 or 81 between Allentown and Trenton. Factory was a 4(?) story concrete place with ramps up to the worker's floors. They made files by heating stock and cutting teeth with chisels. Sharpened and made kerf on saws by hand. Really interesting.
edit: it was Mercer's house. A 2 wk goof off trip with Dad in 80 or 81 between Allentown and Trenton. Factory was a 4(?) story concrete place with ramps up to the worker's floors. They made files by heating stock and cutting teeth with chisels. Sharpened and made kerf on saws by hand. Really interesting.
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oscarflytyer
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There is a tractor trailer full of the old belt driven tools and machines at the Piney Chapel Antique Engine & Tractor show here every fall. It really makes you think about how things were made! And appreciate how they were made. Also helps understand when you try to replace parts on older guns and things! They were all semi-hand made and fitted!
smokeywolf
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I've spent hundreds (maybe into the thousands) of hours running flat leather belt/cone drive lathes and drill presses. It's the bench work, the hand work, that I'd like to see.
Another here who would have loved to spend at least a few months with Harry Pope.
Another here who would have loved to spend at least a few months with Harry Pope.
oscarflytyer
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Left out Harry Pope. Have his book. And yes he is on my list too
I have spent a day with Kenny Jarrett in his shop. He had recently purchased Harold Broughton's barrel making equipment and was unpacking it. Kenny's shop was quite similar to that of several shops I've visited, at least those of top drawer riflesmiths. The shop was not anywhere near as interesting as the conversation.
Why don't we meet at Larry's soon ?
Eat lunch afterwards and bring your photos and I'll see them then.
Ben
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Pistolero
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I would like to see Turnbull's operation. I met him many years ago at a gun show
here, had never heard of him or his work. Just cruising along and then I see this
just, shockingly beautiful, PERFECT 1892 Winchester. But it HAD to be a replica, so
I checked the markings, it said Winchester. But it was perfect, it was NEW. I was
baffled. After a couple of minutes of detailed staring, I looked up at the guy behind
the table, Mr. Turnbull. I asked (kinda stupidly) "What is it? It's not a replica, but it
is new." He grinned proudly and said "It is a Winchester." me- "But how is it so
perfect? So new?" He said, "I restored it." Proud as a new papa. I was just blown away.
His work has to be seen in person to be believed. I'd love to see how they do it.
Pete, a friend, a tool and die maker, recently retired from making that stuff for
a big bullet maker near here. I was talking to him about it, and he was a bit
irritated that the cost of parts was such a big deal to them. He is a hard nosed old
guy, and was not pleased with some of the young guys who, in his opinion, were
not doing the kind of work that they should have been, but they did work cheaper.
Bill
here, had never heard of him or his work. Just cruising along and then I see this
just, shockingly beautiful, PERFECT 1892 Winchester. But it HAD to be a replica, so
I checked the markings, it said Winchester. But it was perfect, it was NEW. I was
baffled. After a couple of minutes of detailed staring, I looked up at the guy behind
the table, Mr. Turnbull. I asked (kinda stupidly) "What is it? It's not a replica, but it
is new." He grinned proudly and said "It is a Winchester." me- "But how is it so
perfect? So new?" He said, "I restored it." Proud as a new papa. I was just blown away.
His work has to be seen in person to be believed. I'd love to see how they do it.
Pete, a friend, a tool and die maker, recently retired from making that stuff for
a big bullet maker near here. I was talking to him about it, and he was a bit
irritated that the cost of parts was such a big deal to them. He is a hard nosed old
guy, and was not pleased with some of the young guys who, in his opinion, were
not doing the kind of work that they should have been, but they did work cheaper.
Bill