Making a Lee sizer

Brad

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Making a Lee sizer for Jim. I decided to show how I do it.

I started with a 1" piece of 12L14. I faced the end, drilled for a center, then turned to .870. I have learned that while 7/8-14 threads are ideally .875 in diameter that getting cute and tryingto be "exact" leads to dies that don't thread into presses! A little slop makes for easier install into the press and if no lock ring is used it lets the die float a bit.

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Here is the rough turned part ready for threading. I have already cut the relief at the ends of the threads and the top is turned to .820 so a Lee red tub fits properly should one be used.

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Threads cut and cleaned up. I use a lock ring to check fit.

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Dies is threaded into a piece of 6061 I drilled and tapped for this purpose. The dies is locked in with a lock ring snugged up with a wrench. This allows me to turn the top after cutting the part off the stock. There is a little runout but not enough to bother me as this isn't a critical part.

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Top is cleaned up and a little bevel is filed on outer corner.

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The top of the doe after back boring and cutting a countersink. I backbone 2.75" with a bit at lease .020 over desired bulelt diameter. This allows the sized bullets to easily move upwards. I found that having too long a sizing section makes it very difficult to push bullets thru. This is an area I learend from the school of hard knocks.

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Bottom for the die. The pilot hole was drilled after threading but before parting off. I use a drill well under desired bullet size but large enough to handle chip load well. Drilling a 3" deep hole with a small bit is an exercise in frustration. When possible I use one of my small selection of parabolic flute bits. Buckshot recommended one bits and he was right, they move chips way better than standard flute bits.

So far I have roughly an hour invested. I buy most of my stock from speedy metal online. I can get 36" of 1" 12L14 for 13.64 plus shipping. I generally buy 3-5 chunks of stock at once to spread out shipping. Figure there is a max of $1.50 material involved.

I will try to finish the die tomorrow. I will also make a matching push rod and a push rod for the die for Walter.

For now I watch the Vikings and get ready for work.
 

Brad

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With a setup like Keith has this could probably be made to this point, minus the backboring, in less than 5 minutes.
If Keith starts making Star blanks again I will buy them rather than make any from scratch. Cost is a little more but it saves a ton of time.
 

Gary

SE Kansas
Very nice Brad; I am in the process of buying a new lathe and sizing dies are one of the projects I have in mind.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Patiently waiting for my .431" Lee style die.....:)
Again....Many thanks Brad....
 

Ian

Notorious member
Excellent post, Brad. It's good to give the guys who aren't familiar with machine work some insight into the processes involved with making those cool tools. I'm jealous of your lathe, but but you have nearly ten times invested in it including extra tooling than I have in mine, and that's just way out of my budget even if it's fully ten times as capable. I can't wait for you to dive into some gunsmithing work for yourself, you'll have a lot of fun with that.
 

Brad

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Ian, what you lack in funds you make up for in red neck ingenuity. You have a natural ability to make things work, I lack that. You also have a mechanics mindset, I tend to pay others for that.
I have some ideas on a project but need to get off the fence and start buying tools. A have a couple Marlins that could stand to get a new barrel. A barrel vice and action wrench are needed.
 

Brad

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Got the sizer bored and polished to final size.
Now it is time to get the push rods made. I tend to like them a little longer than Lee to make sure the bullet is pushed thru the entire sizing portion if possible. This reduces the effort to size bullets because one bullet isn't pushing the previous one thru the sizing portion.

Here is a video of the push rod start to finish.

 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Brad,
That video is super! Actually this whole thread is great. Just love seeing the machining of things ( especially when I know they are mine!;))
Jim
P.S. I agree; old icons were more expressive.
Other then that I like our new look
 

Gary

SE Kansas
If I might inquire, what's the brand and model of the Lathe you're using Brad?
I'm looking at a Baileigh 1022V. Originally looking at a G0602 grizzly but they won't be in stock until the last of Feb.
 

Brad

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http://www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-1236/

Got it 3 plus years ago. Been very happy with it so far. Enough HP and rigidity to make any cut I find reasonable.
I am considering one of their mills next.

Pretty much all the Chinese made machines come from a couple factories, the difference is the quality expectations of the importer. The after purchase support from this company has a very good reputation.
 

Gary

SE Kansas
Sweet!! That baby is way out of my price range, but the 1022 is what I've pretty much settled on. Right now it's less than $2000 and if I order it through Amazon shipping is free (Amazon Prime). It's got variable speed 1 hp motor; 1" spindle, ect. More than I could get with the grizzly AND it comes with a QCTP. Going to finish up research today or tomorow then pull the trigger. Have to wait and see how Oklahoma does against Georgia. This should be a heck of a ball game.
 

Brad

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Yeah, I paid for shipping and a rigging company to get it out of my truck and onto the stand. I'm not equipped to move 1/2 ton lathes! Had to get 220V run to the garage too.
 

Gary

SE Kansas
Pretty sure I can use the 6 foot front loader bucket on my tractor to handle mine when it comes. This metal spinning is a very addictive endeavor.
 

Brad

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Thanks Maven.

And Gary, it can be very addictive. There is something about making things for yourself and others. In time you become more limited by imagination than anything.

I owe a bunch to Keith and Buckshot for getting me down the right path.
 
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waco

Springfield, Oregon
We have all variety of manual and CNC mills and lathes at work. I just need some guidance on using them. There are several very smart fellas at the shop, a couple are gun guys to boot.
 

Intheshop

Banned
Grunt report....found a new way to utilize a DP.It's a dandy drill/weld/fixture.....Now,it doesn't take much more effort to plate fixture your lathe bed to mount DP....knowing to keep welding away from $$$ bearings,so don't confuse the above.Two apps for a nice Walker Turner"bench style" column/base assembly.Out,BW