New NOE 360-310 FN "The 35 Thumper"

[35 shooter]

Slap that puppy on that whelen. At least then you'll know whether the other one really is acting up or not.

Yea i know, it's a hassle. What's really a pill is when you put a brand new one on and it acts like that and it turns out to be the new scope. Grrrr!

 

[yodogsandman]

I still consider a twenty year old one as new!

Glad I've never experienced your scope pain, though!

 

[35 shooter]

I still consider a twenty year old one as new!

Glad I've never experienced your scope pain, though!

What made it even worse was i had 2 new ones of the same brand back to back go out within 2 weeks of each other on the same rifle.

I've got over 30 year old leupolds still going strong though. Even the finish still looks great on them.
Love the leupys, but they sure are proud of the new ones now.

 

[RBHarter]

I won't brag on my wonder glass .
I have 2 El Paso K4s and a V9 still going strong . I have a Tasco 3-9x 40 Pronghorn that has upwards 1000 rounds of full tilt 06' under it going on 22 yr . Yep they all fog a little if I don't leave them in the truck at deer camp but they haven't moved .

 

[35 shooter]

Weavers and Tascos got me started way back when. In fact just about everybody i hunted and shot with had one or the other or both. Lots of bottom of the line Bushnells were around too.

You know, i really don't remember anybody having any particular problems with any of them, except maybe the occasional momentary fog on a cold or rainy morning...give it a minute and it would go away, then hit the woods.

 

[yodogsandman]

56.0gr IMR4350 didn't get any better. This load was heavily compressed. Bullets didn't want to seat at 3.200"and were at 3.204". No excessive pressure signs, fired primers were similar to jacketed bullet loads at max loads. Again the first shot of the first volley of five shots and the sixth shot, the first shot of the second volley of five shots shot high.

 

[yodogsandman]

Resumed testing with H414 using magnum primers. Here's 55.0gr H414, shot again with magnum primers instead of the regular ones.

 

[yodogsandman]

Here's 56.0gr H414. Not looking good.

 

[yodogsandman]

57.0gr H414. My rifle doesn't seem to like this powder.

 

[35 shooter]

Did you change the scope yet?

 

[yodogsandman]

No, didn't want to change anything before running up through all the powders I'd started using. It's certainly time to try new glass. I was just thinking yesterday and figured my shooting problems might have started about the time I started wearing new glasses (1/6 or 1/7). But, I'm doing OK with that new .270 with 3-12X scope.

Notice that the main part of the H414 groups locations didn't change that much on the target. Adding powder didn't add much velocity. I didn't change the scope setting for these.

 

[yodogsandman]

New scope is on now!

 

[35 shooter]

Well at least now you'll know if the bushnell was giving any trouble.
How's it look on your whelen?

 

[35 shooter]

I finally got a chance to shoot some of your thumpers today. I tried 48, 50 and 52 gr. of imr 4350 for starters.
I really like the way the recoil feels with this bullet...just a big soft push.

Nothing to report really as my contrary old rifle was giving vertical strings with all 3 loads. I was only shooting 4 shot groups with each load since i started so low on the charges.
It would put 2 together 1" or less, then 2 more 4 or 5" higher straight up.

The soot on the necks was cleaning up at 52 gr., so i'll try 53 and 54 gr. next time.

 

[yodogsandman]

Good to hear you were able to get out between storms! I have to sight in that scope this weekend. Maybe I'll go back and try that 53.0 gr IMR4350 load again, you know, just to sight in with. Hmm, maybe some Dacron would help?

Edit: Need more IMR4350 so, just loaded up 55.0 gr IMR4831 (old, old stock 1981)

 

[35 shooter]

The way 4350 fills the case, if i used any type filler it would be shot buffer with 1/8" compression. I'd start low with the filler and work back up though.
Yea i'm about out of 4350 too(1/2 can). I need a couple of 8 pounders of the imr, but i want to try a can of aa 4350 first.

I look for this bullet to do what it's going to do in my rifle at 53 to 54 gr. of imr 4350.

 

[5shot]

I look for this bullet to do what it's going to do in my rifle at 53 to 54 gr. of imr 4350.

Did you run your initial loads over a chrono? I got great groups with 50grns of WC852f and 47grns of WC852, but I didn't have my chrono set up.

 

[35 shooter]

5shot

I did chrono the imr 4350 about a year or so ago and from 48 gr. to 54, 54 1/2 gr. of imr 4350 with bullets from 200 gr. to 280 gr. 48 gr. gave about 1950 fps. and 54 to 54 1/2 gr. was in the 2200 to 2250 fps. range.

I think the heavier bullets were giving more resistance against the powder making it burn more efficiently and therefore came out very close in velocity to the lighter bullets?
All three bullets, 200, 230, and 280 gr. were within 30 fps. of each other with the same powder charges with imr 4350.

Oh and 56 1/2 gr. of imr 4350 with a 230 gr. gave right at 2300 fps. I ran up to 58 gr. with that bullet, but didn't chrono it. I would guess 2370ish fps.

Very interested in your wc852 results....keep it coming!

 

[5shot]

This rifle was put together by Robert Applegate, specifically for shooting cast. I am pleased...

 

[35 shooter]

I would have to say that plan came together rather well to say the least!

The prices on some of those surplus powders have got my attention for sure along with the accuracy potential i keep seeing posted.