Schmidt Rubin 96/11

[Klaus]

Happy New Year

i would like to open a new file for my latest achievement.
Swiss Rifles are not on my" i must have file"
i was looking for another Mauser 98 Long Rifle and my target are on a Turk Mauser 1903 unfortunately my bid at EGUN cames to late and the Rifle was gone .....
so i poke a bit and my eyes catch a Swiss Long Rifle IG 96/11 mhh .

maybe it would replace my Mauser 98 behavior... long story short iv`e been very impressed about this fine Rifle
taking some pics from the 96/11 and targets shoot have taken last week.

first shots are done with GP11 and Reloads from a friend with jacketed Bullets with good results but my own passion relay on cast bullets loads.

my receipt :

Lee .312 - 185 Bullets
Alu Checks

Sized to .309 and .310

Home Made Lube and finaly tumbled in Ben`s LLB

Here in Germany US Powders are rare and expensive as equivalent i use the all time available LOVEX Powder
Lovex are Accurate Powder because Lovex produces for Accurate in Europe.

For my loads i use D036 = AA # 5

12,4 grs Do36 no Filler light Factory Crimp

13grs D036 no Filler light Factory Crimp

50 m rested on a Sandbag

Rearsight 300m

POA 6 o Clock Hold

I shoot both diameter on Target 1 and 3 10 shots each
.310 Bullet Impacts are a bit deeper as .309 er

Targe 2 are .309 Bullets only.

vertical stringing depends on my eyesight / light condition at this day

regards from Germany

KLaus

 

[quicksylver]

Welcome...some fine shooting....i too suffer from the vertical strining brought on by light changes under the target...my....answers to that is a..,front peep ..thanks for posting the targets. How about pictures,of the gun?and loaded rounds.

 

[Klaus]

Hello Quicksylver,

thx for your comment.
pics of the disasembled rifle enclosed yet

the full and bright appearence will follow...

by the way i have try your version of Ben`s LL .. but i have to change some parts due of the lack of Johnsons Paste Wax here in Germany
i use Poliboy Special Wax, Pure Gum Turpentine and Lee Alox.....

Klaus

 

[Pistolero]

Good shooting. I have been competing at 300M with Swiss K31s for about 11 or 12 years now,
using jacketed bullet handloads. I have only tried cast a few times, but with good results.

AA#5 is pretty close to Unique in the charts of burning speed, and 10 gr Unique works very well
in most large late 1800s to early 1900s military bottle necked cartridges, which the 7.5x55 is
a normal example. Another reliable load for cast bullets in these old bottle neck military cartridges is 16 gr
of Alliant 2400. AA#9 is fairly close in burning speed to 2400, so it may work well, I have not tried it
since Unique and 2400 are on my shelf and neither of these AA powders are. Some depends on how
the AA powders will work at lower than normal pressures.

Clearly you are doing a lot right with your casting, lubing and sizing. Of course, the fine
quality of the Swiss rifles will contribute if you can meet their particular needs for diameter
and throat. I have a K11, but have only fired a few groups with GP11 in it, no real knowledge of
the throat configuration. But since GP11 is a two diameter bullet, .299 ahead of the cannelure
and .307-.308 behind it, I would assume that the 96/11 has a throat similar to the K31 - which is
no throat whatsoever from the factory. The rifling runs full height right to the end of the chamber,
and the bore diameter forward portion of the GP11 bullet sits there just fine. As they are fired,
the rifling is eventually burned away and eventually they develop a throat somewhat like a normal
rifle. K31s are where I have most of my Swiss rifle experience. Fine rifles, too.

Depending on what your rifle's throat is like, you may use a bore rider type design very effectively
with a 'no throat' newer barrel, or a larger diameter bullet, more like a Loverin for a more worn
throat.

Your targets show excellent shooting, and it is great fun, isn't it! Glad to see someone in Europe able
to get past the restrictions and enjoy shooting and reloading, and casting.

Bill

 

[fiver]

I have a chopped down 98/11 here I bought it back before the Swiss rifles were a thing in the U.S.
it took me about a year to find brass, and a box of Norma ammo was almost double what I paid for the rifle.
GP-11 was something I read they shot in Europe somewhere at some summer shoot in a gun magazine once.
I got mine up and going eventually and ended up using a magma engineering mold with a .298 nose, a bevel type plain base, and sizing to .310.
I still seat the bullets out a bit and let the chambering of the round push everything into a consistent place.
I would have to double check the powder amount but around 12 or 13 grains of unique sounds about right.
I was burning unique in about everything for a long time since I run on 4 jugs of it for @85$ each.

 

[Pistolero]

I was fortunate to buy 300 Graf and Sons boxer primed cases, and then later bought a
good bit of PRVI Partisan ammo. Turns out that the Graf headstamped brass was made
by PRVI for Graf. If I anneal the necks every 4th loading or so, brass lasts a very long time.

I tried GP11, but none of my K31s would shoot all that well with GP11, so I handloaded
my own ammo.

Bill

 

[Klaus]

Hello Bill,

thx for your comment.
For the Swiss Rifle i am on the beginning path for successful loads
As i wrote i was using the Lee .312 - 185 Mould and sized them down to .309-310 ( enlarged the Lee PT Tool)
looking fwd to Lee 309 - 200 R. Mould ....

regards Klaus

 

[KHornet]

I wish I had another one. The one I have I paid 115.00 for and should have bought
a second at the time. Fine rifle. Good shooting Klaus!

Paul

 

[Klaus]

another Day at the Range ...
same load as before quite reliable results....

10 Shots at 50 m

12,4 grs Do36 Lee Bullet . 312 - 185grs
sized .310

need a little higher frontsight

first shot poa at lower 6 circle following by poa in the lower 5 six o`clock hold

 

[KHornet]

Nice work Klaus!

Paul

 

[quicksylver]

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