Soft jaws

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
First off I want to thank Smokeywolf and Keith for pushing me in the right direction. They made me realize how helpful soft jaws can be for repetitive work on the lathe while also allowing for repeatability.

Bill asked about how I hold a lead bullet in the chuck without damaging it. Pretty easy really.

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These are the 6061 Al jaws I made. A chunk of 1.5" diameter Al was cut roughly to length. Each piece had one end faced flat then reversed in chuck to face to length. They were then thru drilled for clearance of the bolt. I drilled and bored a flat bottom recess for the bolt head so it is just below flush.
The jaws do not have any keying to index off the bottom portion of the jaw, screw tension alone keeps them from turning.
I clamped them on a very small round rod in the rear of the soft jaw to provide inward tension when boring. I then bored until a .432 gauge pin would just slip in. That makes for a set of jaws cut to provide contact on the full circumference of the bullet. Force is distributed such that the bullet can't spin but isn't damaged by heavy point loads on a smaller jaw surface.
Notice the flat bottom to the bore. This lets the bullet bottom out in a repeatable manner. I can simply place a bullet in place, snug the chuck, and cut. No need to indicate each bullet for either length or concentricity. I can groove a bullet in under a minute including time to chuck and remove after cutting.
The other cuts you see on these jaws are for trimming 445 brass to length for the SRH. They are cut so the rim fits into the recess you see to indicate for length. Trims brass to .001-.002 repeatably. The jaws are reversed for trimming.
These cost very little to make and took maybe an hour to complete. Very helpful.

The first soft jaws I got were used for holding Star die blanks for drilling and boring. I was using a sleeve with some slots in it like a collet but it wasn't as repeatable or easy to use as these are.

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These jaws are made from 1018 so they cut very easily. I purchased a couple sets online, I want to say they were 20-30 bucks a set of three. Each end can be cut for a specific job so the cost isn't too bad in relation to their usefullness.

Top photo shows how they were bored to just fit a Star die blank. Again I used a smaller object held in the rear of the jaws to provide an inward force on the jaws when boring to size.

The lower photo shows how these are made to indicate on matching surfaces on the lower jaw. Each soft jaw was stamped to make sure it is always placed on the correct jaw. You can also see the bottom of the cut that the dies bottom on.

I had to buy a new chuck as the one I got with the lathe wasn't equipped with 2 piece jaws. The chuck wasn't cheap but between the chuck running much more true and the ability to use soft
jaws it was worth every penny.

Hope this helps you understand the process Bill. This is such a simple concept but has amazing capabilities. The jaws are bored on the lathe so the bore in very true so parts will run true time after time. How I got by without these I don't know.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Nice work there Brad. They are handy aren't they? We have several drawers full of soft jaws for our Kurt vises and almost every three jaw in the shop.When we run out of things to do we perform maintenance and make blank soft jaws.
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
Used to have the shaper running in the Studio Machine Shop, turning out blanks for soft jaws, 1-2-3 and 2-4-6 blocks, while I would be standing in front of a knee mill working on something else.
Soft jaws, emergency collets and a small assortment of expanding mandrels are things no shop can get along without; at least not for very long.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
If I had a mill I would make my own. Sadly I need to resort to buying them. Prices aren't bad compared to the capabilities of them. Being able to use simple Al round stock for some situations makes it even cheaper.

Amazing how something so simple can make such a difference.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
OK, by soft I was thinking delrin or something.

Cool. My education continues.

I was thinking of boring a piece of 5/8 delrin rod and then slotting it and grabbing in a
chuck.

My "machine work" was limited to filing chainsaw chain and filling gen fuel tank.:eek:

Bill
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
In this case soft means machinable. The normal top jaws are hardened and therefore not machinable.

Best thing it they are a precise fit to YOUR part.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Cool stuff, Brad. So you just made your own soft jaws for the special chuck you got that has two-piece jaws. I was thinking of soft inserts like shoes that are machinable and fit the standard, one-piece jaws, does such a thing exist?
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
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Ian, this wouldn't be too hard to do. Make the hole in each part just large enough to let it slip over the hard jaw. You could use 1018, 12L14, or even 6061. I would use whatever was cheapest. The bevel on the inner edges is to let the chuck close on a smaller part. If making a larger part that isn't required.

If I have learned anything with the lathe it is the fact we are limited only by our ability to use Google and our imagination.
 
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smokeywolf

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I much prefer aluminum to steel for soft jaws. Softer and higher coefficient of friction means your workpiece is less likely to spin or slip.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Brad, for a chuck that doesn't have removable jaws the slip over type you show look terrific. Great idea!
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Brad, for a chuck that doesn't have removable jaws the slip over type you show look terrific. Great idea!
I would love to take credit but at is just soemthing I found via Google.

I was a bit amazed when I saw the idea, it is such a simple concept. Every notice how often we see something and say "Why the hell didn't I think of that?"
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I'll be making up some aluminum jaws for my three jaw chuck when I get home.

We just got power back! AC is on, still a lot of chainsawing, but we are getting ahead
of it, now we can at least sleep cool.

Bill