Softening clip-on wheelweight alloy

Snakeoil

Well-Known Member
I hauled what lead I had out to the lake for an alloy mixing and ingot casting session. I found a bunch of ingot I had made years ago and forgot they were under the bench. But when I put them in the bucket, they kinda clinked instead of thudded when I dropped them in. I used my pencils to test hardness and they appear to be wheelweight alloy. That would have been the only odd and/or hard alloy I ever had because back in my BPCR days, I bought virgin alloy from a supplier in NJ.

So, I use 20:1 and 30:1 in all my shooting these days. Is it possible to bring an alloy with antimony in it down in hardness to emulate a 30:1 or 20:1 alloy. I don't want to start throwing virgin lead at it only to find that I'm wasting my time and my lead. I did a search here and found nothing. I did a similar search on the web with similar results. I have the alloy calculator spreadsheet shared here and it really does not tell me what I can do, if anything to soften up the wheelweight alloy.

If I can't fix this stuff, I'll just give it or trade it with somebody at the club.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
The chart I have says you will have to get below 1% antimony to get to 30/1 and just 1.5% antimony to get to 20/1. FWIW
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
How much of it do you have? How old is this WW alloy? Pre-90's many WW were 4-5% Sb, over time the Sb percentage was reduced. Maybe 2% for more recent weights.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
yep.
the new stuff is about the same BHN as 20-1, with a little Tin thrown in the mix.

anything old,, like Rick says is a whole nuther world.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
I'd try to trade it, if I were you.
Someone will likely want that alloy more than pure or near pure lead.
In my circles, I can easily scrounge pure/near pure lead, but rarely come across COWW alloy.
 

Snakeoil

Well-Known Member
I'd try to trade it, if I were you.
Someone will likely want that alloy more than pure or near pure lead.
In my circles, I can easily scrounge pure/near pure lead, but rarely come across COWW alloy.
Wish it was cheap to ship. I'd be horse trading with you. But now that I think about it. The USPS flat rate boxes have a 70lb limit I believe for the medium box with is $17.10 to ship. But I know I can horse trade it with guys at the club.

I have no idea how old it is. But suspect it is from the 90's.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Yep, it's doesn't pay to ship, not only the fees, but more so the hassle of properly packing it.
The one time I did a swap that went USPS, was me shipping my commercial bagged shot, swapping for blended and scanned alloy (94-3-3), I don't recall the swap rate, but it wasn't 1 to 1 ..probably 3 to 1
Another time, I drove about 50 miles to meet a fella from southern MN for a swap, 2 to 1. His COWW alloy for my soft lead. He was a muzzle loader shooter and couldn't find soft lead anywhere. There was several hundred pounds exchanged that day, weighed on a bathroom scale, in a gas station parking lot.