What about the .35-30 (or .35-.30-30) ???

Eutectic

Active Member
There seems to be quite a few .35 caliber cast bullet 'lovers' here. I'm one of them. I have thought for a while now about a JES re-bore for the .30-30 opened to .35.... Maybe a Ruger #3...

Anyone one have experience with this number? A few questions I have are: Is the case a straight taper or is the neck area just expanded? What are people using for reloading dies?? Anyone seen any loading data on this caliber? How about any general comments on accuracy, functioning, techniques, powders, bullets, etc..etc..

Can you see any advantage for the .35-30 over just going to .38-55?

Pete
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Finding used dies isn't such an easy thing.
C-H still makes them ( I think ), however they are pricey.

It is one of the oldest wildcat cartridges out there.
I think it would be a great cartridge.
If I ever find a set of dies reasonable, I'll probably have JES rebore one for me.

Ben
 

Brother_Love

Well-Known Member
I did a little research on it the other day. RCBS makes the dies for a mere $300. I found an old thread on 24 hour campfire that said you could use a 375 Win die to size the cas body, a 35 R.E.M. Die to size the neck and a Lee 35 factory crimp die. A couple of people said it worked well. I have a Revelation/Marlin that I am considering as a candidate. I just gotta send something to JES to have re-bored, it is kinda like an addiction!
 

300BLK

Well-Known Member
The 35-30 is a bottle-necked cartridge unlike the 32-40. Case capacity is a little less than the 35 Remington, so loaded pressure for pressure, the 35 Rem should make more velocity. There is a little data in Cartridges of the World:

208gr cast 25gr 4198 1893fps
245gr cast 30gr H335 1770fps
282gr cast 28gr H335 1700fps
292gr cast 33.5gr 748 1618fps
 

Ian

Notorious member
I'm just not seeing it unless you have a nice old .30-30 with a rotten bore that you want to save. If I were to do a wildcat for the sake of something different I'd re-barrel and go the other direction like Ken Waters did. Or maybe go full Goofy and squeeze it down to 6.5mm.... How much velocity can you get out of a 6.5mm bullet at only 42K psi?
 

Brother_Love

Well-Known Member
I have also considered the 356 Win, almost a rimmed version of a 358 Win. The brass is pricey though. I know it is something that a 35 Remington could do but it is the novelty attraction to me. Just something to do.

BTW, the Revelation I have has a bad one inch in end of bore and the crown needs cleaning up. Its previous owner was a little abusive.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
And why not just rebore and rechamber to .35 Rem if you are saving an old .30-30?

Less velocity, expensive dies. Not seeing the attraction, but then again, much of this is NOT
about logic. If somebody has a particular itch, his choice in how to scratch it.

For that bad one inch, I'd seriously think about a counterbore to fix it. Not hard to do.

Bill
 

Chris

Well-Known Member
I think it is simpler to stick with a rimmed case than to convert to rimless.

I have dad's old Winchester Model 55 in .32 special. Bore is about shot out and it would be a good candidate for conversion. I have read that some recommend using a liner rather than rebore owing to problems with the older barrel steels. I think I would give JES a call before taking any action.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
the 32 version would be the simplest re-chamber-re-bore.
if it was in a single shot or bolt action format the 35 would make a lot of sense though, you have about 250grs. of bullet weight to choose from.
and you could possible simply neck size with your 357 mag dies,,, maybe.
I know if I use my 30 cal neck sizer on 30-30 cases I get .309 ID, so it would be a matter of how small or big did the hole get drilled in the die.
but I can use a steel set of 38 special dies to neck size and mouth flair my 358 win cases.
 
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freebullet

Guest
Interesting stuff.

My only 35 cal rifle is the ar9. Guess I need to think about getting one in a more deer blaster suitable caliber.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I know a guy who did a 35-303 . It's really more like a long necked 9×57 .
The 9×57 is on my list to have , although I don't think there would be any gain over the 358 already in the safe .
 

35 shooter

Well-Known Member
I've given a lot of thought to a 35/30 conversion also, as brass would be very easy to come by.
Longer neck for seating the longer, heavier 35 cal. bullets also.

I think OUTPOST 75 has done a lot of work with the 35/30.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I know the 35-40 has a pretty fair following, it would be super similar to the 303-35.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Anyone have photos of some of these wildcats?
Don't think I have heard of the 35-40
This is a pretty good thread!
Thanks for posting
Jim
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Where are you going to find Krag brass ? ?
Much , much easier to find 30-30 brass.