Remingtons 360 Buckhammer

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popper

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Don't think it can be easily made from 30/30 case. Probably have to inside ream the neck. Or size, expand the neck, neck turn and resize? With the taper, forming a neck is the problem.
 
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fiver

fiver

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i dunno.
the 30-30 cases might actually be a bit too thin for the size die.

anyway the way to do it is to make a all the way to the end of the chamber tapered case then jam the bullet and let the pressure shape the neck and shoulder for you.
 
Tomme boy

Tomme boy

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Case will be too thin. That is the limiting factor with the 3030. Well in a lever gun anyway. Especially with the huge sloppy chambers they have.
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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Naw, the brass is but a vessel ta hold the powder. Base is/will be nearly completely encapsulated. Altho the 375 Winchester brass is thicker webed then 30/30... Maybe thru using that brass.

I made up a couple dummies. Cant get a taperd case tho.

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RBHarter

RBHarter

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So form the the case on 30 Rem , Carcano or 6.8 basic mandrills with the 375 rim the heads are the same OD . The 375 down will thicken the neck some .
 
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popper

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Looks like the 'neck' is 1/2 the length of 308W neck and is mostly made from the shortened neck of the 30/30. And the taper is much greater. Making a longer neck is the problem. 30/30 case you get into the shoulder/case wall that is thicker. Powder space is probably reduced to 37 gr h2o.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Ian said:
So you mean I can use those old balloon head .45 Colt cases for my Ruger-only loads after all?
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Well, yes you can but they will break. Nothing bad will happen unless you scratch the cylinder trying to dig the broken pieces out. So far I have gotten three reloads out of them with 38 grains of FFF and the Keith bullet.
 
Ian

Ian

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CWLONGSHOT said:
Come on Man....
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That's what I was thinking when I quoted you. The action doesn't seal very well when the case head fails or the primer pocket collapses and primer blows out because the brass was too soft and/or thin to support more pressure than it was designed to. Even if the design of the gun protects you from that gas, it's still a mess and at the VERY least ruins cases. So far we don't have facts on this new cartridge's design pressure but I bet it's a lot more than an actual .30-30 case is designed to take to get the numbers they're supposedly getting. If so, that nixes safely being able to use full-power loads in reformed .30-30 cases most of us have in abundance. That's a bummer from my standpoint because I'm cheap. I'd probably own a 350 Legend upper if I could make proper brass from .223.
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

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Ian said:
That's what I was thinking when I quoted you. The action doesn't seal very well when the case head fails or the primer pocket collapses and primer blows out because the brass was too soft and/or thin to support more pressure than it was designed to. Even if the design of the gun protects you from that gas, it's still a mess and at the VERY least ruins cases. So far we don't have facts on this new cartridge's design pressure but I bet it's a lot more than an actual .30-30 case is designed to take to get the numbers they're supposedly getting. If so, that nixes safely being able to use full-power loads in reformed .30-30 cases most of us have in abundance. That's a bummer from my standpoint because I'm cheap. I'd probably own a 350 Legend upper if I could make proper brass from .223.
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While your correct we dont know pressures of this new cartridge. We DO KNOW the pressure constraints of 99% of commercial ammunition. We also KNOW its designed for lever actions and we KNOW the design pressure perimeters of most all those.
 
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Missionary

Missionary

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It is all going to come down to which "critter cop" has you cornered out in the bushes.
Better carry an "official copy" of the approved list and be sure your barrel is properly stamped.
I will stick with the 44 Frank Wesson.
 
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