I like Receiver sights on Mil Surps

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Hi Guys,
I may as well start this off.
I love my Mil Surps with Receiver sights! If I can I also add an aperture Lyman globe 17A
This is my GEW 98 at 200 yards
Jim
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freebullet

Guest
Nice looking set ,JW.

Think I'd need a drill bit for the back one. Not much hope I'd even see the hole.:rolleyes:
 

Ian

Notorious member
Same here, I'd need at least a .095" aperture at rear ring distance just to let enough light through to see the hole.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Haven't shot my AR in a bit but it had a .042 rear aperature. Worked very well. Much is dependent on how close your eye is to the aperature.
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
I like receiver sights, but I leave my milsurps as issue. It is sort of like
I feel like that is the way they were in the big wars, and feel sort of a
kindred sprit type thing. If with issue sights I can stay in 3-4" at 100
with them I am well satisfied with them and my old eyes.

Paul
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Ben, definitely good enough for man size target
out to 300. However stats are sort of leaning today
for (with the exception of sniping) ranges of under
100 on average.

Paul
 

Reed

Active Member
... If with issue sights I can stay in 3-4" at 100 with them I am well satisfied with them and my old eyes.
Paul

3" with military sights @ 100 is very good !
Ben
I appreciate your perspectives, guys. Nothing wrong with high expectations, but maybe I've been expecting a bit too much from my old military rifles.
Reed
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
I imagine in WW II, in a Banzai attack in the South Pacific, a 19 yr. old US GI with an M-1 rifle was lucky to keep everything in an 8 " circle in a combat situation with 200 men running at you with bayonets fixed & adrenaline pumping .
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Wonder how big most folk's group sizes would be if they shot for the record while people threw firecrackers, rocks and mudballs at them from hidden positions? Shooting under stress is a whole lot different from shooting undisturbed off a bench. That's why you read of shootings where dozens of shots are fired and few or none connect.
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
You get me scared enough, I doubt I could hit the barn if you had me locked inside.
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
I've been shot at on three separate occasions. Due to potential innocents behind/beyond my shooters, only one of those incidents was I in a position to return fire. Distance was over 300 yards, with topography open with some low rolling hills. I was on horseback and carrying the Model '94 30-30. Shot came from my right (off side of my horse). I dismounted, my horse now between me and the suspects (2 that I could see). Slid the carbine out of the scabbard, rotated my horse a little so I could peek out from behind her rump and with the lead rope snapped to one of my belt loops so I'd have half a chance to hold onto her if she spooked, I fired one shot. As I could not, with 100% certainty know that it was these 2 that had fired the shot, I aimed about 15 ft. to the left of them. They disappeared for a few seconds, then I saw two subjects on motorcycles traveling away at a good pace.

This happened back in about 1978. I was working for a cattle company that had had rustling problems. I'm thinkin' the fellows who shot at me weren't actually trying to hit me, just scare me away. I don't think it ever occurred to them that someone would shoot back.

I was actually pretty calm; until about 4 or 5 minutes after it was over. Then I started shaking and got a little nauseous.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Wonder how big most folk's group sizes would be if they shot for the record while people threw firecrackers, rocks and mudballs at them from hidden positions? Shooting under stress is a whole lot different from shooting undisturbed off a bench. That's why you read of shootings where dozens of shots are fired and few or none connect.

All I can add from my fortunately meager experience shooting for real is that 1) Clint Smith was right, you WILL default to your current level of training, and 2) you never really know how you'll handle it until it actually happens to you.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Ian, your first point is the reason why at this point in my life I have opted for a DA revolver as my personal self-defense weapon. My recent life/health history has almost completely eliminated any chance for frequent training. As to your second point, I hope that being aware of my surroundings is the best way to not find out how I might handle things.