Suppressor Suggestions....

waco

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I am as green as they come when talking cans.
That being said, this is where I want to start. Ruger American Ranch in 300blk and a Ruger PC 9 carbine.
Both are 1/2" 28 threads to my knowledge.
I want to shoot cast, can it be lubed or does it need to be PC only?
I heard that cans without baffles are better?
Give me some facts and brand names to check out please.
Thanks for your help.
Waco.
 
Ian

Ian

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You need a 9mm can that you can take apart to clean, and is rated for supersonic blackout from a 16" barrel. The Ruger should have standard 30-cal threads, 5/8"x24. The 9mm is probably 9/16" x 28. Lubed plain base will lead your baffles. Lubed gas checked will lead your baffles more slowly, and it gets worse the faster you push them. PC PB or gas checked don't seem to lead my cans at all. PB PC is all I use for subs from .22 to 45 rifle. I get no leading from 2400 fps loads in the M1A using GC, PC ACWW.

The Griffin Rev 9 is an excellent choice because it is highly configurable, extremely tough (9" BLK supers, FA 9mm), inexpensive, top rated for dB reduction, and not too expensive. The quick-detach mount means you can buy muzzle devices for anything you want to suppress and just swap it around. https://www.griffinarmament.com/Revolution-9mm-Silencer-p/garev9.htm

If you want to use it on a pistol with Browning-type delayed-blowback action, you will need a linear decoupler.
 
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Brad

Brad

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No, the linear decoupler lets you travel thru time if you can get the Delorean up to 88 mph.
 
Hawk

Hawk

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Been thinking about getting a suppressor. Just don't know if it's worth the trouble filling out all the paperwork and waiting for the license. Talk about shooting out the back door at 2 a.m., Out My Backdoor is an elementary school a public swimming pool, and a park with a playground in it. Course it would be handy in case for zombie apocalypse, or a s h t f event.
Is a class 3 license hard to come by? I've already got a handgun permit in Texas.
 
Ian

Ian

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You don't get a "permit" for title II firearms, each item is listed on a Federal registry and is transferred between owners, or in the case of silencers and other items which still have an open registry (new ones can be produced and transferred to ordinary citizens), the are initially transferred between manufacturer, dealer, and then the owner, and between owners thereafter. All transfers go through the ATF firearms branch which has to review and approve each one, which is where the time and paperwork thing comes in. Most types of transfers are taxable, which is where the $200 fee comes in.
 
Hawk

Hawk

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Ok to buy a suppressor you need to have a class 3 license correct? Also does everyone in the trust have to have a class 3 license also?
 
Ian

Ian

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A class III licence is a dealer's licence, or more correctly, a Special Occupation Tax paid by an FFL holder for the privilege of dealing in NFA/Class III/Title II weapons (all the same thing). None of this applies to you. No licence, you just fill out the application to transfer form, pay the tax, and when the transfer is approved, you go pick up your item from the dealer. If you have a trust or corporation, the paperwork is more extensive but the basic process of what's happening is the same. What you retain as proof of legal ownership is one of the original application forms you submitted bearing the cancelled tax stamp. If you sell and transfer the item to someone else, your form becomes obsolete.
 
Hawk

Hawk

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thanks for the clarification. that sounds a lot easier than I thought it was going to be. Obviously I've got more research to do, but I'm wanting to put together a trust of myself, wife and daughter.
 
Ian

Ian

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Go find yourself an NFA attorney and have a go. I recommend Jim Willi in Austin, but Christopher Bass in Irving comes recommended by others as well and is closer to you. What you're paying for is a sit-down consultation and a custom trust drafted to meet your needs and situation.
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
Lessee.....
Gun Control Act Definitions
Silencer
18 U.S.C., § 921(A)(24)

The term “Firearm Silencer” or “Firearm Muffler” means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
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Yep, that includes pillows. Sorry. :sigh:
 
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freebullet

Guest
I was kidding... I definitely wouldn't thread that on any of mine.
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
Well.....nobody said you couldn't Form 1 a pillow, but the SOT is sure gonna look at you funny when you send it in to be re-cored:rofl:
 
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freebullet

Guest
Nah, ya just stuff new feathers in the back & shoot them out the front. It just kind of solidifies the hipocracy because, every feather you have is an unregistered can. :sigh:

I'm guna hold out for sanity, the law being changed. I couldn't shoot at home even with a can, so no real necessity to jump through those hoops.
 
Pistolero

Pistolero

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The Special Ops folks are getting new suppressed uppers. Here is an excerpt from the article on
it. Sounds pretty hard to imagine.

"Sig Sauer has a distinctive looking, revolutionary approach to suppressors. They look nothing like the suppressors you see in movies and TV shows – these rifle suppressors are tubeless. They’ve eliminated the outer tube typically seen with suppressors.
In addition to reducing weight, this tubeless design increases volume, lowering pressure and temperature for greater durability and leading signature reduction. One of the keys to this feat is the special “baffle” design."

Hokum or real? How can you eliminate the outer tube?

Anybody know anything about this?

Bill
 
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