Rabbit hole

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I was thinking more along the lines of sitting it on your heating tray, dropping a PCed bullet base first into a generously tapered hole, and then carefully removing the tray. I did not intend to put it into the oven, I just thought it would help stand up the bullets and let you shake off any powder that might stick to it.

Probably overthinking things
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I think he is speaking of a template where you drop the bullets in place on the tray put the tray in the oven then lift it off to bake.

I use the BB's, not the recommended black or whatever color it is.
I use the glow in the dark ones the boy had with a gun he got from my Dad years ago and never played with.
I also learned to meter in the amount of powder,bullets, and BB's so I don't have excess powder in the cup.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
You nailed it fiver, I wasn't as clear with my explanation as I could have been. I've tried standing up small objects and usually end up knocking over two items for every new one I add after a certain point. I was thinking of something like a square pool ball rack, put it down, fill it up, take it carefully off.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I use bbs because they reduce bullet damage. I started out with yellow ones because someone gave me a fresh keg of them yeads ago and I had found no other use. Got some black super heavy ones, honestly I can tell no difference whatsoever.

If JT got into powder coating (maybe he has?) I can only imagine the automated setup he'd have, probably involve a collator and conveyor belt.
 

Ian

Notorious member
WSS, I honestly don't know, because after two minutes of pretty vigorous, orbital shaking followed by half a dozen hard-as-I-can up and down slams to set the coating, they ought to look like golf balls. I got better coating and fewer dings when increasing the BBs from 1.5 deep to about 3.5 deep in the container.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
if he had access to a CNC again I bet that could be worked out.
just another year would have been nice, I had 2 nice 7mm drawings he was interested in and then it was up in the air.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I should have gotten his copy of the Harris bullet
 
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freebullet

Guest
I should have gotten his copy of the Harris bullet

I have it, Brad. Your welcome to run some through it.

I like that tumbler method. Pc being applied with electrostatic applications worldwide, everyday, it stands to reason any container with a good static charge will help the tumble coat stick. Increase the static the more will build up.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I think you’ll be happy with your PC results Brad. It’s really not to complicated. 7B6ABFE3-ED2D-49D4-8C81-A4FC467A3AAB.jpeg39011CBF-EF51-4A80-867E-227BD641BD9B.jpeg7E2CD1D6-8DF5-4814-B4E6-22F2FF5FD968.jpeg5DDB3579-FA78-409F-A870-A06868052EF8.jpeg
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Ok since I'm going to be the fall guy ;)
The only pistol bullets I have shot have been in rifles! They still get all the TLC as my other rifle bullets: yes my wife has shot them in her 38 S&W and I'm much happier when I clean . it It also compensates for the .362 bullets this little bugger needs. IMHO you need the BBs ! I use Smokes pack of black......why you ask .....extra static is produced! I tried both ways but the BB batches are always
superior.
Ok now to read the rest of the posts! ...... I didn't get very far before I had soom splai'n to do
Jim
 

popper

Well-Known Member
Black ones work best but you could try the plastic beads from hobby store. Don't use too much powder in the bowl. Swirl to get the static built up and coated. Shake ( like tossing salad) to get the powder 'cloud' and knock some 'extra' off. I pick out with hemos and tap on paper towel to eliminate the excess (rifle only). Next try for pistol I'll pick out and dumping on a screen rack to remove excess then waffle silicon mat to cook.
All the 'rabbit holes' I've chased are EMPTY.
 
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358156 hp

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I did buy a package of plastic beads, but have yet to use them. I generally don't cast during the hot months unless I start running out of bullets, and I practically haven't been shooting at all so far this year. My workload ramped up considerably, and I either seem to be either really busy, or totally exhausted. It looks like it's time for me to take my life back. Anyway, I have supplies & materials backlogged around here for experimentation. Powdercoating figures pretty prominently in some of it.

At a recent gun show I went looking for tumblers, my elderly "big" Lyman tumbler has fallen ill, and I went looking for another older version of it, primarily because the older Lyman tumblers were awesome, but the newer tumblers are rather uninspiring, to say the least. I found a guy with a fairly new Thumlers vibratory tumbler, and bought it for $50.00, and started negotiating with the guy on another tumbler he had on the table. This one is an old design called a Vibratec, it uses a non-rotating vibratory motor, and uses plastic tubs to hold media & brass. This one will get plastic beads & lead bullets for powdercoating. I share some others concerns about the potential for bullet damage (especially bases) with conventional tumblers. The price ended up being perfect for me. The guy thought my project was interesting, and simply gave me the Vibratec. I had one once before that was much smaller than this one, which is huge. The plastic bucket you see in the pic is a 1 gallon ice cream bucket. This is going to be interesting, to say the least.

Brad, since you have all that excellent data & research from your 44 mag SRH with various bullets, I'd like to suggest you start there with your powdercoating. With the issues you've overcome with it, and especially with the Accurate mold design, I think it would be fascinating to see what effect powdercoating would have on that project.

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Brad

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The 44 mag is a place at definitely want to try the powder coating. If it is as slick as some say then it may help the bullet find center better.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Brad, did you ever try those 429421 HP PC'd bullets I sent you?

Bob, really all you need for the poly PC is a shallow sandwich container with silicone lid seal and snap flaps on the lid. One for each color. PC need not be expensive, equipment dense, or messy. If you're using HF red, Fortunecookie45LC's method (utoob) seems to work really well.
 

Brad

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Staff member
I have not tried them yet. May well give them a go soon if my schedule allows. I just had my schedule changed so I now work every 4th weekend instead of every other but that also means I lost some weekdays off. I tend to avoid the range on weekends.
 

Brother_Love

Well-Known Member
I tried it, didn’t like it. I just purchase the PC bullets from the dealer on CB. I did not want to coat rifle bullets. By not doing this I freed up about 4 ft of workbench space . For those who like to PC themselves I wish you all success.