Going to order a 6 cavity mold, I have the Lee 200 RF in a 6 and the Lee 200 swc in a double cavity, getting real tired of casting with that double cavity. I'm trying to decide between the swc and the 230 TC mold. My Sig Sauer 1911 has been throated by Doug Guy so chambering isn't an issue. I don't do any competitions, just backyard gongs and general plinking. The swc is slightly more accurate than the RF bullet but that may be because I tend to push the RF more than the swc, both are more accurate than my limited handgunning abilities. Thinking the 230 TC might have a little more thump if I try to take a deer at close range at some point. Anybody with experience with it?
45 acp, Lee 200 swc or 230 TC?
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I have both.
I shoot far more of the 200 swc. Less lead, less recoil. I figure the targets, cans, and such are plenty dead after a hit from the 200.
I actually use an MP 200 swc now, got tired of the Lee bevel base.
The 230 does feed quite well.
I shoot far more of the 200 swc. Less lead, less recoil. I figure the targets, cans, and such are plenty dead after a hit from the 200.
I actually use an MP 200 swc now, got tired of the Lee bevel base.
The 230 does feed quite well.
Thanks for the replys guys. I've thought about the TC using more lead, but it only costs me the time and labor to dig it out of the berm at the range. Since I retired, I kind of enjoy doing it and I've got about 600 lbs at the moment so it's not a big factor.
Does anyone think there would be much of a difference between the 200RF and the 230TC on target? The TC has more weight but that RF meplat is huge.
Does anyone think there would be much of a difference between the 200RF and the 230TC on target? The TC has more weight but that RF meplat is huge.
Pistolero
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For most purposes the H&G 68 is absolutely ideal, no pun intended. IMO, even if forced to use it for
self defense, I would not feel at a significant disadvantage. I know two guys who have taken whitetail
deer with 1911s and IPSC loads with commercial hard H&G 68 clones. DRT. One or two hits, and down.
Great on targets. MAYBE 452460 is slightly more accurate.....maybe. Loaded properly they H&G 68 is a
100% certain feeder in a 1911. Billions of rounds in competition in IPSC to prove it.
I have used the Lee TC some, no complaints other than lead wastage, greater recoil for no particular
purpose, and poorer target hole cutting. I have not shot enough of them to have an opinion on
accy.
Bill
self defense, I would not feel at a significant disadvantage. I know two guys who have taken whitetail
deer with 1911s and IPSC loads with commercial hard H&G 68 clones. DRT. One or two hits, and down.
Great on targets. MAYBE 452460 is slightly more accurate.....maybe. Loaded properly they H&G 68 is a
100% certain feeder in a 1911. Billions of rounds in competition in IPSC to prove it.
I have used the Lee TC some, no complaints other than lead wastage, greater recoil for no particular
purpose, and poorer target hole cutting. I have not shot enough of them to have an opinion on
accy.
Bill
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CZ93X62
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Thousands of the Lee 230 TC castings downrange through several pistols. Mine is a 2-banger, and everything Cherokee posted above applies to my mould and its products. I use one load in W-W brass to duplicate my carry load in my pistols--5.5 grains of WW-231 which gives 890 FPS +/- from a 5" barrel. (Carry load is the WWB 45 ACP JHP--it WORKS). Seated with .020" of front drive band above the case mouth edge, these run like water in every 45 ACP I have tried them in--including a box-stock Series 70 Gold Cup belonging to a relative and a Glock 21. A light taper-crimp snugs everything in place. Grouping and distribution would overlay the factory ammo bullet holes very closely, to 50 yards.
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CZ93X62
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I have 4 moulds to serve the 45 ACP, 5 counting the untried #452423. The Lees are their H&G #68 200 grain imposter and their 230 grain TC/conventional grooved. Lymans are the #452374 and #452460. I also have about 600 of the 45 BD castings I poured c. 2012 with a borrowed mould. They don't spoil.
I am in need of some new carry ammo in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Given the shagnasticating goat-rope that was involved with the paperwork required to buy 1K rounds of non-toxic rimfire ammo to hunt with, I think on balance it is easier and faster to just drive to Yuma (210 miles, 1-way). Needless to say, reloading has expanded overnight in CA in response to this Cal-DOJ nonsense. Sprague Sports, here we come.
I am in need of some new carry ammo in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 ACP. Given the shagnasticating goat-rope that was involved with the paperwork required to buy 1K rounds of non-toxic rimfire ammo to hunt with, I think on balance it is easier and faster to just drive to Yuma (210 miles, 1-way). Needless to say, reloading has expanded overnight in CA in response to this Cal-DOJ nonsense. Sprague Sports, here we come.
CZ93X62
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Bill--don't give the low-life in River City any bright ideas.
Lamar--I haven't hunted with the 45 ACP very much, just jackrabbits and a few very unlucky ground squirrels. If hunting was on the menu, that BD-45 or the Lyman #452423 seem like the best choices of the moulds now in service here.
Lamar--I haven't hunted with the 45 ACP very much, just jackrabbits and a few very unlucky ground squirrels. If hunting was on the menu, that BD-45 or the Lyman #452423 seem like the best choices of the moulds now in service here.
fiver
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the 423 is on my very short list of see one grab it molds.
I have a 225gr rnfp that fills in right now and it has taken smaller stuff like porcupines, rock chucks, and put down one road hit deer.
judging from those results I'd use it in the field if I had the opportunity from like a tree stand or ground blind on shots wellllllll within 50 yards.
I wouldn't intentionally deer hunt with the acp but I have used a model 1300 to shoot registered ATA trap, a youth model 120 to shoot trap doubles in a shoot off for good [weeks wages] money, and have taken more than one high dollar trap gun duck hunting, so I can't say I'd never do it.
I have a 225gr rnfp that fills in right now and it has taken smaller stuff like porcupines, rock chucks, and put down one road hit deer.
judging from those results I'd use it in the field if I had the opportunity from like a tree stand or ground blind on shots wellllllll within 50 yards.
I wouldn't intentionally deer hunt with the acp but I have used a model 1300 to shoot registered ATA trap, a youth model 120 to shoot trap doubles in a shoot off for good [weeks wages] money, and have taken more than one high dollar trap gun duck hunting, so I can't say I'd never do it.
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I've got a bow stand where a Looong shot is 30 yards. The last 3 shot out of it was closer to 15 yards. Since the 45 acp is the only handgun I own and it doesn't look like Santa is gonna take the hint about a Blackhawk 45 colt, it just keeps rolling around in my head to give it a try. Goodness knows there's nothing in there to stop that kind of thoughts.
