My Office Today

Kevin Stenberg

Well-Known Member
Yes that looks like an quite a bit of water to let loose all at one time.
Its good your not one of those mindless persons that doesn't think about what he has to do!
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Paul,
I usually don’t have to go back in on these county beaver jobs. Most often I or the foreman can tell from the roadway at the culverts how much the water recedes. If I’m driving by or the foreman is driving by, we often send pictures back and forth to monitor areas trapped. If the water doesn’t recede, I put in a canoe and find the next obstruction/ next colony. Sometimes that can be miles in bog country. Most often removal of just a couple dams working for county highway dept., but forestry contracts most often mean removing beaver from multiple colonies to find the roads and dry out timber. Last year, last two weeks of May and all of June, I worked a contract for the Forestry. Removed 87 beaver and 46 dams, all in a 7 mile long stretch by canoe. Uncovered cement culverts and bridges the young foresters didn’t know were there. They didn’t always record roads in the old days and a lot of info retired with the old foresters. Old roads grow over and roadways were retired, then recovered when timber matured. Now they have satellite imagery and computers. Foresters scale logs at the landings and rarely see the interior. Only other human I saw on that contract was my grandson when he helped me tear out 17 dams in one day. I left a canoe in there for six weeks and road my wheeler in to it. Sent pictures of beaver caught( when I had cell service) and pictures of dams/ man made structures.That’s my idea of an office!!
Went in today and tore out remainder of dam down to original creekbed. Pretty easy job because most of the loon crap and milfoil had washed through. Just dug it down to sand/rock. Had already dropped the water level about 2’ from two days ago, should drop about another 3’ in the next week or so. You can see how much water level has dropped by comparing pictures above to those below.
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looking downstream.
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The dam where my son was standing two days ago. Note the location of the Lily Pads, and there location now. They grow in the loon poop bottoms, and move with it. The camera is pointed North and the dam runs all the way to the tree line in the background.24EC97A3-CAB1-4596-B80C-0A9C6ADC2FC0.jpeg
Looking south across the dam and the notch we tore out. The dam is also built clear to the tree line on the south also. If you go back to the picture looking upstream, you can kind of gauge how much water the beaver were holding. The cell tower in the background is almost to the county road, and beyond the county road is just as much water as pictured here. In short a bunch of water, and the water level was almost to the height of the road on both sides, which makes for a pretty soggy roadbed. I’ll try to get a picture if I’m working down that way later, but sounds like I’ll be on the west side of the county for awhile.
 

trapper9260

Active Member
Thanks for the ones you did took it show how much of a different from how it was. It is interesting to see how it looks when you get the water down. for when you did not see how it looks before.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Fiver,
Yep on the phone. We were taking a break, letting a wad of Milfoil get through the dam. A couple of his harem had called. LOL We are just jealous old farts!
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Kevin,
All water goes to the rivers here, either the Snake, Willow, Moose, Rice, and eventually the Mississippi. Most of the large lakes are either backwaters or wide spots in the Mississippi. It's also the "Beaver Highway". :)
 

trapper9260

Active Member
It sounds like beaver highway for all the ones you are after to remove. Before we had the flood here in the part of Iowa I am in back in 1999 there was alot of beaver around here and it would keep me busy then the flood came then that ended for how it was.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
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caught a beaver yesterday, that had rebuilt a dam on one of my rice contracts. Note the trap sitting on it’s back! The beaver had found it somewhere and tried to use it to plug the notch in the dam I opened up, to catch the beaver. It is a muskrat/ mink sized trap(1 1/2 coil) that has been in the water for some time. The chain was completely rusted away and the springs were quite weak, though still operable. Seems everything ends up in a beaver dam eventually.
 

trapper9260

Active Member
Nice pic Rally , I have read about they use odd things to build with . Never know, Those smart ones are the hardest and for what it done . I see it mess up , since you got it .
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Rally,
Has the DNR asked you to start live trapping Beavers yet?



just in case you are "paywalled".
Wolf researchers in Voyageurs National Park believe unlikely food source may be behind moose success
By Greg Stanley Star Tribune

AUGUST 3, 2020 — 1:38PM

Deep in the woods of Voyageurs National Park, on the remote Kabetogama Peninsula just south of Rainy Lake, a small and isolated moose population is surviving, even as others in Minnesota have been cut in half or wiped out.

The moose inside the park have been dealing with the same challenges as those outside it, from disease to predators to warming temperatures, yet their numbers today are almost identical to what they were in the early 1990s. The question is, why?

A team of wolf researchers, which has been painstakingly documenting every summertime kill and meal for wolves in the park, believes the answer may be because Voyageurs moose have a robust ally — or, perhaps, a sacrificial pawn — that others don’t: American beavers.

Beaver numbers are so strong inside the national park that they’ve become the primary food for many of the park’s wolves in the summer. It’s possible that the beavers, once hunted to the brink of extinction, are keeping the wolves fat and happy enough that the predators don’t need to eat the moose or their calves, said Tom Gable, project lead for the Voyageurs Wolf Project, a group of researchers with the University of Minnesota and the National Park Service studying summer wolf habits.

There are no easy meals in the wild. “But, relatively, it is much easier for them to catch a beaver than to risk getting kicked by a moose,” Gable said.

With fewer calves being eaten, a higher percentage of moose may be living long enough to breed, keeping numbers stable even as the population deals with the same threats and diseases that plague moose in the rest of the state, Gable said.
The surprising thing is that Voyageurs has a relatively large wolf population. But, for whatever reason, the wolves inside the park almost never eat or kill moose in the spring and summer, when calves are at their most vulnerable, Gable said.
“We’ve tracked and found over 800 kills of beavers and deer fawns and everything else wolves are eating,” Gable said.
Out of all of those kills, only three were moose.

A tempting alternative
Beavers are treated like a nuisance throughout much of the state. The same front teeth and engineering skills that allow them to build intricate dams and ponds for their young can also cause flooding in developed areas, kill off timber and reroute or choke popular trout fishing streams.

When their dams cause damage or threaten property, trappers come in and the dams are destroyed. But inside the park, beavers have flourished for 50 years among nearly 200 square miles of untouched aspen and birch trees. Their population in the park, estimated to be more than 3,000, makes Voyageurs one of the largest and densest beaver habitats left in the Midwest. They are up to 10 times more abundant in the park than elsewhere in the state, according to U research.
Growing up to 60 pounds, an adult beaver can make quite a meal for a wolf, Gable said.

The researchers and volunteers with the Voyageurs Wolf Project have been combing the national park for about seven years, tracking dozens of wolves and wolf pups to learn more about how they survive and act before snow is on the ground. Until recently, little had been documented about their summer behavior.

They’re difficult to track because they stop hunting in packs and are often on their own, blending in almost perfectly with the brush and traveling incredible distances, Gable said.

Their kills in the summer, when food is plentiful, are much less dramatic, and much less evidence is left behind than when a pack takes down a moose or a deer in the winter.

Researchers using GPS collars and trail cameras can record everywhere a wolf goes. Each time a wolf stays put for longer than 20 minutes, a member of the team hikes to that location to look for remains of what the wolf just ate.

The project made national news when it found that not only are wolves proficient at fishing, they actually set the fish aside, stockpiling them while the fishing is good and eating them when it slows down. Cameras also caught wolves eating blueberries and regurgitating those berries for their young.

What has become apparent, Gable said, is that wolves prefer to ambush and eat beavers than to try to chase moose and their calves.

Careful balance to study
Over the next several years, researchers plan to study exactly how moose populations correlate with beavers and wolves.
Careful study is needed because it’s possible an abundance of beavers could actually harm moose populations, Gable said. More beavers in the spring and summer could create more food for wolves, allowing more to survive into the winter, when they are forced to eat more moose once the beavers are hidden in their icy dams.

But, at least early on, the health and stability of moose populations inside Voyageurs seems to point to the benefits of having beavers around to distract and satiate wolves while moose are at their most vulnerable.
If it turns out that beavers can help, it could give state and federal wildlife officials a new tool for bringing back the giant grazers.
In the early and mid-2000s, moose numbers plummeted across the state, dropping from as many as 9,000 to somewhere in the range of 3,000 to 4,000 animals, though it has stabilized since then. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR), which conducts a winter population estimate every year, believes the numbers have held relatively flat since 2011.
Researchers point to a number of reasons for the decline, including habitat loss and rising temperatures, as well as growing wolf populations. One of the biggest threats is the spread north of a parasitic brainworm.

But it might not take much for moose to turn the corner. If just a few more females survived to breeding age and a few more calves made it to maturity, the population could start rising again, said Glenn DelGiudice, DNR moose project leader.
Calves are at their most vulnerable in the first 30 to 50 days after they’re born in spring, DelGiudice said.

“All of a sudden in the first two or three weeks of May, there will be thousands of deer fawns and moose calves on the landscape in northern Minnesota,” DelGuidice said. “It’s like a smorgasbord for wolves and black bears, who are just out of hibernation.”
About 65% of calves born in Minnesota die before they reach a year old, according to a recent DNR study. Most of those calf deaths — 60 to 70% — are caused by wolves.

Except in Voyageurs, where, smorgasbord or not, the wolves seem content to hunt beavers and occasionally fish or snack on blueberries.

Greg Stanley is an environmental reporter for the Star Tribune. He has previously covered water issues, development and politics in Florida’s Everglades and in northern Illinois.

greg.stanley@startribune.com
 
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fiver

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60-70% of the calves are killed by wolves.
but,,, earlier,,, the wolves prefer deer fawns.
man.
I wonder what the deer kill is then.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Don't get me started!!!!!!! There is more BS in that report than in commercial beef farm. I noticed they didn't mention how many Moose died from stress after being collared from helicopters. Governor made them stop that on MN land, then they went and did the same thing on the reservations.
The wolf population is at holding capacity, and has been for years, yet they keep spending money "studying" them. Why? Wolf research is big money to state management coffers, no other reason to continue studies. I have customers having a ball snaring wolves that disperse out of Mn., into Canada every year. As long as the wolf is the poster child of the bunny huggers, and research money comes in, the studies will continue, at tax payer expense.
As of October 1st in Mn., all snares set in any fashion, except under ice, will be required to have a Break Away device installed on each snare, making all snares, in any trappers inventory, illegal to set before the Break away device has been installed, which adds about $3.00 per dozen cost to the trapper, all because of a few incidental wolf catches every year.

JonB,
I've sold both beaver carcasses and snares, to both the federal and state trappers for bait! Just two weeks ago, a new law went into effect, so that we can keep beaver taken in the off season, taken lawfully with nuisance permits, now that there is no fur market.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Paul,
Not many. We are in a drought here and the Army Corps seems dead set on draining the Mississippi. No water, not many beaver problems. I suspect a record September if we get any rainfall. The beaver are here, but not causing many problems now. Wild rice is having a record year it appears, if we don't get a bunch of storms to blow it all down too early, the ducks will have a feast.
 

trapper9260

Active Member
Rally , it is getting slow for you then . Army Corps I do not put a past on them. I guess the barges will not be able to move the grain the way they want then . It is not the first year that happened. Yes the Duck and geese will get fat off of the wild rice. Not count what ever else feeds on it .
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
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The wife and I were out checking traps yesterday and got seven beaver. I was standing by the ditch pictured , and had just set a trap on each side of the ditch. I’d dropped the tailgate and was cutting the castors and oil sacs out of the beaver pictured, when a beaver comes swimming upstream, huffing and working one of the sets I’d just made! I slip around the side of the truck, tell the wife to scoot forward, and get my 10/22 out from behind the truck seat. I ease back around to the tailgate and the beaver was nosing the wind either coming from the lure at one of my sets or the odor of the fresh castors and oil sacs I had just removed from four of the beaver on the tailgate! Either way, it was an easy shot. Of course the beaver kicked around a little then sunk like a rock. I went back to skinning on the other beaver. Wasn’t three minutes, and here comes another beaver, huffing and totally oblivious to me or the truck! Another easy shot. Wife was pretty impressed, she knows I get paid per head. I’m bringing the canoe down there tomorrow to set the pictured ditch and one like it two miles south. I’ll be able to recover the two shot beaver, which usually bloat up and rise to the surface.
Note all the junk in the back of my truck. It was city wide garage sales in Aitkin, mn and McGregor, Mn also. We ran traps and hit garage sales at the same time. Wife about filled the truck after we got to an estate sale by Aitkin. I bought a Mossberg 385T in 20 gauge that was about 90%, and two barrels for a Rem, 870 both 30” full, all for $80. The barrels were kinda rough/ rusty, and one had a bulge at 22”( probably from shooting steel in full choke) . Cleaned and painted both today and cut the barrel with bulge to 20”, for future slug barrel.
Dropped the beaver carcasses off at a buddies house to use for bear bait.
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Fiver,
Last stats I heard and could believe, were that a wolf kills a deer about every eleven days on average. And of course they only kill the weak and injured deer! LOL Like that article posted above, the truth is hard to pin down of late, kinda the "Golden Goose" thing.
 
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trapper9260

Active Member
Glad it working out for you on getting the beavers and to have 2 more show up , keep up at it. Also on getting the barrels . You had a good day .Also no area.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
11 days? well maybe.
there is usually 6-8 wolves in a pack, so say there is 6.
that'd be a deer every other day, 6 eating the 30 lbs. of meat off a Deer's carcass [if they strip it all] the other every other day would be something else like a beaver or your cat or whatever.
you have to consider how many calories a 100lb. carnivore would use in a day, and then account for them killing stuff for practice to have a real clue.

you can work the numbers out to one wolf killing one deer every whatever days so it sounds not so bad.
but when you total up their 11 day number and times it by the pack size and then again by days in a year you start seeing numbers like 300 deer a year for a pack, plus their little side hustles on other smaller animals.
I don't know about where you live but at 300 deer per year the wolves will starve to death long before reaching old age.
 

Rick H

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The numbers I heard are one deer a week per wolf, and that doesn't include "training kills". I had a discussion with a wildlife photographer some years back. He was in one of the Canadian provinces filming the caribou migration. They watched and filmed a pack of wolves, with young, kill over 30 caribou on one morning. They never ate a one of them, just killing. Their best guess was the pack was training their young.

The area of Michigan I deer hunt has wolves. I have not seen them in large packs, usually in pairs. My hunting partner was on stand and caught movement to his front....he spotted 4 young wolves and an adult, he suspected the mother. When he raised his binoculars they spotted the movement and immediately spread out with the young ones taking a direct route towards him. The female backed off and began working in behind him. He was pretty excited and was interested in how they were setting up an ambush, until it dawned on him they were hunting him. This was a muzzle loader hunt. LOL. He stood up and shouted, while looking for a tree he could climb if he had to. They all ran off.

We also bow hunt the area, but we carry handguns as well. There is something very primal about sitting in a deer blind in the predawn and hearing wolves howling all around you.
 
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