10 mm For under 3bills ????

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I remembering my father telling us they were going to burn up the engines when snog controls came out for the 1968 models. Thermostats set at 180*? Everyone knew you ran 140*'s in the summer and 160*'s in the winter, so you didn't boil the alcohol out of the antifreeze.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
The head water jacket passages were narrow and would rust up. My buddies dad would chuck up pieces of wire coat hangers and run them in a drill motor to clean out those passages when he was rebuilding them motors.
Their family loaned me a dented 63’ Valiant to drive for about 4 weeks when my truck broke down when I was 21. The Dad had three or four rigs with those slant 6 motors. He loved them and claimed the narrow passages were their only design weakness.
The Slant Six is sort of like a S&W K-frame – a solid, simple workhorse design that will yield decades of service, provided it is given a tiny bit of maintenance and isn’t horribly abused.

The crankshaft of a slant six only has 4 main bearings. The bearings are big (same size as the hemi engines) and the crank was very strong; so that worked ok if you didn’t run it completely without oil.

The water pump impeller could come detached from the water pump shaft (personal experience with that problem) The shaft would still turn and it wouldn’t leak, making for a tough failure to diagnose. But if you didn’t ignore the temperature gauge or warning light – not a fatal failure.

The distributor gear on the later slant-six engines was made of nylon. You could shear all the teeth off that gear if you had the distributor hold-down bolt just little too loose when setting the timing. I can attest that if you shear the teeth off that gear (like say when setting the timing with the bolt too loose :rolleyes:) the engine will stop abruptly and it will not start again until you replace that gear. If you don’t have a spare $1 gear, it could be a problem.......

All Chryslers of that era had a resistor in the ignition circuit. It was generally mounted on the firewall and was an inexpensive part that would never fail as long as you had a spare in the glove box. If you didn’t have a spare, it would fail at the most inopportune time.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
All Chryslers of that era had a resistor in the ignition circuit. It was generally mounted on the firewall and was an inexpensive part that would never fail as long as you had a spare in the glove box. If you didn’t have a spare, it would fail at the most inopportune time.
But a much better system than GM's nickel/cadmium wire that let it pass 14 volts to the points when the wire was cold, but only 7 volts when hot. Very easy to burn out points when it was below zero!
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
But a much better system than GM's nickel/cadmium wire that let it pass 14 volts to the points when the wire was cold, but only 7 volts when hot. Very easy to burn out points when it was below zero!
True but the points failed gracefully. The resistor failed catastrophically.
 
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Rick H

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My brother had a 340 Duster Six Pack. He carried 3 resistors and had the change out time down like a NASCAR pit crew. That and the fact that it would not hold paint led to him getting rid of it after a year. He traded it in on a GTO Convertible.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Black is my favorite also. However, it's high maintenance. In 1999, I ordered a black Chevy full size passenger van. Had to pay an up charge. GM offered the panel truck in Black, that year, but not the passenger van. :headbang: Upon delivery, I took it to a window tinting place and had the windows limo tinted. Looked like a cargo van. Next stop was my favorite pin striper out on Groesbeck Highway. He used three colors, grey and two shades of purple in a subtle arrow motif. His comment was "what a nice piece of canvas to work on". It was quite a head turner. Got lots of compliments. Brush by Bock, has done three other vans for me. Two of which, I still own.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Black is my favorite also. However, it's high maintenance. In 1999, I ordered a black Chevy full size passenger van. Had to pay an up charge. GM offered the panel truck in Black, that year, but not the passenger van. :headbang: Upon delivery, I took it to a window tinting place and had the windows limo tinted. Looked like a cargo van. Next stop was my favorite pin striper out on Groesbeck Highway. He used three colors, grey and two shades of purple in a subtle arrow motif. His comment was "what a nice piece of canvas to work on". It was quite a head turner. Got lots of compliments. Brush by Bock, has done three other vans for me. Two of which, I still own.
And in my head starts a song- "I gave a girl a ride in my wagon. She crawled in and took control. She was tired and her feet were a draggin'. I said "Get some sleep and dream of rock and roll........."

I may be dating myself, but surely someone else remembers "Chevy Van"!!!
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Remember those paint shedding Dusters..................purple was the worst offender.
All our 88 and 89 Diplomat Troop cars lost the paint on the hood. I mean pretty much 1500-1600 of them. They were dogs to start with, the primer hood just made it worse. You couldn't steer them with your foot through a corner because the gutless 360 didn't have the stuff and the rear end would chatter across the pavement until you were sure you were about to die! Horrible cars.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
By the mid-1980s my county gave up on Mopars. All Impalas and Crown Vics after that, and both were decent patrol cars that didn't break constantly like the Chryslers did. If the Impalas had a flaw, it was their cooling systems. Idled with the A/C running in ambient temps over 100* F, they would overheat in about 10 minutes' time. Crown Vics NEVER overheated, even at 120* idling for 2 hours with the A/C on full blast. The Impalas were gone by the late 1990s.

Ford Explorers do the heavy lifting now.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
We had some Dodge Monacos but with 440's they went like stink in a straight line but God help you if you had to stop. Absolutely the worst brakes ever. 1 1/2 stops at speed. They handled so-so but were predictable.

Our old Chevy's were 454's but detuned and coupled with a lame transmission. They were better handling but.....there was no transition from turning well to a handful of ...well excrement. We had a batch of Pontiac Tempests that topped out at 85 mph and rode so hard they literally broke in half at the rear quarters. Seems the engineers at Pontiac thought the way you make a car handle was to stiffen the springs so it rode like a buckboard. They came out to look at our cars and left scratching their heads. 400 two barrels. ugh.

Mostly we ran Ford Crown Vics. We are next to Dearborn and got a lot of "test" cars for free. I even had a Turbocharged-TBird 5 speed manual with the wastegate and rev limiter gone. Had the darned thing at 142mph with a lightbar on top. That was a seriously good handling car. It was not super quick accelerating but it just would not quit. Ford gave us two one automatic and the manual. I got the manual as a supervisors car. I didn't mind shifting. In the day the big block Fords were moderately quick (the 429 shotgun-hemi's were quicker than the 460's) rode decent had good brakes and handled well. More importantly they let you know when you had to back off. The later Crown Vics were nice predictable cars but the modulars had no guts. They got the job done. Like CZ 93 says it is Ford Explorers now. Our K-9's are in F-150's.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Our fire department got a late 70's Nova police package for the Arson Investigator and one for the Battalion Chief. The mechanic swapped out the original rear end of the Bat Chief's car for a 4:11 since he only drove in the city. In those days the Bat Chief's were all old WW2 vets and had some issues with the cars in down town as they wanted to go sideways all the time when they step on the gas.
 

Rushcreek

Well-Known Member
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My $150 C-9 as customized is worth $155 every day of the week. This sad magazine was $10 on a bargain bench but it works. I actually hit the bullet hole I was aiming at a few times.
Another bargain gun that I’m long term testing is a Maverick (Eagle Pass, Texas Mossberg) 20 gauge youth shotgun. $200 and has impressed me so far.FD71E507-A768-4EE7-A62F-35444F895682.jpeg
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
By the mid-1980s my county gave up on Mopars. All Impalas and Crown Vics after that, and both were decent patrol cars that didn't break constantly like the Chryslers did. If the Impalas had a flaw, it was their cooling systems. Idled with the A/C running in ambient temps over 100* F, they would overheat in about 10 minutes' time. Crown Vics NEVER overheated, even at 120* idling for 2 hours with the A/C on full blast. The Impalas were gone by the late 1990s.

Ford Explorers do the heavy lifting now.
The Impala Troop cars we had in the early 90's were butt ugly but I know at least one of them would do well over 120mph and that was backed up by radar. I think I broke 130 a few times. The Crown Vics would top out around 102-05 and the Diplomats were lucky if they hit 100. None of them were anything like the 76 Gran Fury ex-Troop car I owned. That thing would bury the 140 speedo- something I NEVER should have done considering the pitiful tires I ran on it. Awesome car, 440 cu in of muscle...and that wasn't even from the pre-smog control days when they'd REALLY fly!
 
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ChestnutLouie

Active Member
There’s a reason that for over 120 years pistol manufacturers have used locked breach designs when higher powered cartridges are involved. You can get away with a simple blowback design when using a 22LR, 32 ACP, 380 auto, etc. But when you step up to larger cartridges, the simple blowback system becomes unwieldy. In a simple blowback design, the mass of the slide and the strength of the recoil spring provide the only resistance to keep the action closed.

Sure, you can just add mass to the slide, but the gun gets comically bulky and heavy. You could chamber a simple blowback pistol in .50 AE if the slide was heavy enough, but why would you want to?

By using a simple blowback system and all around cheap materials, Hi-Point has found a way to make a semi-auto pistol very cheaply. Those compromises are not free, and they didn’t “crack the code” or “discover” some secret to making a cheap pistol. They just made an incredibly cheap pistol.

Just because something is inexpensive doesn’t mean it is a good value.

For the OP, it sounds as if you are seeking affirmation to buy that pistol. You will not get that affirmation from me. It looks like someone dangled a $220 shiny trinket in front of you and you happen to have $220 burning a hole in your pocket. I don’t think you’ll be happy with that purchase.

If you really want a pistol chambered in 10mm (and not just a cheap gun because one is available) set that money aside and add to that fund until you can buy a decent quality pistol.
Nothing else at that price point
 

ChestnutLouie

Active Member
Fine guns are always better, but sometimes you want a "Range Toy" and spending the $$$ for something nice is not appropiate.
I wanted a 45ACP carbine. My research found that a Hi-Point was less that Half the price of all of the other options.

It's not pretty like my Henry Big Boy. Does not have a chrome lined barrel like my Beretta 92. Does not have a wonderful trigger like my S&W 38.
Only has an 8 round magazine capacity, so what I'm shooting steel plates at the range.

Do I want guns like the one in the picture below, yes but I cannot afford it.

Regards
Francis
 

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ChestnutLouie

Active Member
I just went on a web-based firearm sales site and entered the following search criteria:

Semi-auto pistol, 10mm, Buy now option (actual prices, not an auction bid)
The return was dozens of semi-auto pistols chambered in 10mm that had listed prices under $600.
These included, but were not limited to, Glocks, S&W, Springfield Armory and RIA. Some were new and some were used.
So, buyers are not without options. And there is a difference between Cheap and Inexpensive.
I don't understand, if you don't like Hi-Point guns for whatever reason then don't buy one.
There may be other 10mm pistols for $600, bit thats almost three times the cost of the Hi-Point 10mm pistol.
I wanted a 45ACP carbine and even though I got my Hi-Point 45ACP carbine in December 2020 when prices were crazy it cost 1/3 the price of the alternatives and it was actually in stock so I am shooting not wishing.