11.15 X 37R Grenausfshr sporting rifle

[Glaciers]

Well a unusual rifle is coming back to me. I believe it's of Swedish make. My father bought it and gave it to me about 30 years ago, then about 15 years ago I gave it to my brother in California. I will pick this rifle up in November. It's either that caliber or a 11.43 X 41 Peabody-Martini. Dimensions are close, more info coming, but I suspect I won't nail it down till I have it in my hands.




Double triggers, 35" barrel, nice sights. The challenge will be brass.

 

[fiver]

43 Spanish for the 11.15
7.62 Russian might maybe be just close enough to work too without turning the rim smaller.

for the other one... hope you got a lathe or a lot of patience.

 

[Spindrift]

Wow, what a gem!

 

[L Ross]

I need to check with another shooting buddy but he has something similar to that and has it shooting and shooting well. We played around on my range with it out to 210 yards.

 

[Glaciers]

I've thought that a machined chamber insert to a straight wall cartridge might be possible. Low, low pressure of course. Need to cast the chamber and slug the bore first off. As it's 53" long I will need to remove the butt stock just to fit it in my Pelican case.
My nephew found the history on this rifle and the owner. It a mystery to me how youngsters can do this stuff. I have not seen this info yet, waiting on the link. But this rifle was carried in a European war back in the 1870 - 1880's by the owner E. Cauz. As the history goes he was later shot and killed in the 1890's.
Couple more pictures:

 

[Rockydoc]

That is a beautiful work of art. Much too fancy for an instrument of war, unless he was militia using his personal rifle.

 

[L Ross]

Does it have dual firing pins, switchable from rimfire to centerfire? My buddy's does. He is using 8m/m Lebel brass and I think a cast semi wad cutter like a 429421. I wonder how close that is to .41 Swiss?

 

[Glaciers]

Does it have dual firing pins, switchable from rimfire to centerfire? My buddy's does. He is using 8m/m Lebel brass and I think a cast semi wad cutter like a 429421. I wonder how close that is to .41 Swiss?

Well you may have hit the target. These are rough dimensions rim is about .640, body just ahead of the rim is .535- .540.. The 8mm Lebel's rim is .621 and the body is .536. The shoulder starts about 1" up and the case length at a guess is about 1.6 to 1.7. They just might work and they look to be boxer primed. I believe it's right at about 41 caliber, so reworking the Lebel might take a few steps.
The dimensions come from a 15 year old cerrosafe casting that was done poorly. If I remember correctly cerrosafe starts to grow about one hour after the casting is made. How much growth I don't recall.
After it gets here I'll recast the chamber.
I have no idea about the firing pins.

 

[Glaciers]

Here the casting Joe did. Just got it in the email..

 

[oscarflytyer]

The .545/.535 looks fat for a 43 Spanish. But, I have a cpl 43 Spanish, and dies/brass. Lemme know if I can help with a cpl test fits. Also maybe molds that would help if it is at least .439 bore

 

[Glaciers]

Unfortunately I can't get my brother to come visit and bring it along.

I'll have to pick it up this fall and drag it home.

 

[Bret4207]

Whatever it is, it's GORGEOUS!!!

 

[Ben]

Yes, another vote for a very beautiful rifle !!!!!!!!!

 

[L Ross]

Well you may have hit the target. These are rough dimensions rim is about .640, body just ahead of the rim is .535- .540.. The 8mm Lebel's rim is .621 and the body is .536. The shoulder starts about 1" up and the case length at a guess is about 1.6 to 1.7. They just might work and they look to be boxer primed. I believe it's right at about 41 caliber, so reworking the Lebel might take a few steps.
The dimensions come from a 15 year old cerrosafe casting that was done poorly. If I remember correctly cerrosafe starts to grow about one hour after the casting is made. How much growth I don't recall.
After it gets here I'll recast the chamber.
I have no idea about the firing pins.

John, did you see xsiv4s' post under Bullet Casting about some cut down .43 Spanish stuff he got?

 

[Glaciers]

I did not see that Lynn. I'll go wonder through that category and see if I can find it..

 

[Glaciers]

Found that one quick. Must have missed it yesterday. If I had to guess that's the on or at least close half brother.

 

[Glaciers]

It's looking like a 41 Swiss or10.4 X 38R Swiss Vetterli? So the 88 Lebel brass will work, and as pointed out its available and boxer primed.
Now I just have to wait till November

 

[oscarflytyer]

BFO - 44-77 brass MIGHT also work. I am using it resized for my 43 Spanish

 

[Glaciers]

Does it have dual firing pins, switchable from rimfire to centerfire? My buddy's does. He is using 8m/m Lebel brass and I think a cast semi wad cutter like a 429421. I wonder how close that is to .41 Swiss?

Well I finally picked this rifle up in January so it traveled Arizona in my locker under the bed in our motorhome until coming north. Had to remove the butt stock to ship safely.
Got it home to Alaska and after 4 days of snow removal I took a break yesterday to unpack my Pelican case.

Got to use my Teslong bore scope, Christmas present to check about whether it’s a center fire or rim fire. And yes it does have dual firing pin setup which is set for center fire. Lucky me, at least it won’t need converting. One obstacle out of the way.
It appears that it’s 41 caliber of some kind. Will cast up some soft RB’s to get bore dimensions, but have to run them through a sizer as the mold I have is a .490.
Got to go through my notes and PM’s on this Forum, I believe your friend and I had started a conversation. It’s looking like 43 Spanish or 8mm Lebel are going to be the place to start.

 

[Joshua]

I have slugged many 30 cal and 31 cal barrels with .454 round balls. I carefully tap the round ball with a steel hammer until it has formed a rivet top. I then use a short 3” piece of wood dowel to punch the slug into the barrel. The rest is just the normal process of slugging a barrel.