160 gr. in the 45 ACP S&W Model 625

L Ross

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It may not be a problem, it just seemed for a bullet that light for caliber it would hit to a much lower point than regular loads.

I have a .44 Special with fixed sights which shoots high with everything for me, this has me wondering about a very light for caliber bullet in it.
I have a Richards Mason clone .44 Colt that shot so high it was ridiculous, like 7" high at 10 yards. Because I shot black powder I could get away with seating a .433" round ball on top of a felt wad cooked in Crisco and crimped right past the middle, (hemisphere?). Those 133 gr. round balls dropped the POI to about 1" high at 10 yards. They seems to ring the steel the instant the hammer fell. I don't think it would have been healthy to step in front of a pure lead round ball back in the day.

So yes Rich, a light for caliber bullet should lower the POI in a revolver. If I had a .44 Spl. like yours I'd find that old Lyman 180 grain full wadcutter the 429348. When I googled to double check my memory as to the mould number, Matt's Bullets came up. He even offers a 150 grain .44 wadcutter. Might be a way to experiment without purchasing a mould.
 
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RBHarter

West Central AR
Just as a note but many of the old pistols had hold over sighting ideas .
Applied liberally and loosely the 1860&1858 44s were sighted for 50 yd . That held over into modern revolvers until the advent of the 7 yd SD mindset for everything under 4" . Whether or not that is the case here is not known but it offers an explanation for the "shoots way high" pistols .
 

richhodg66

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My Dad cast a big can of that same 180 grain WC years ago for me when I got started loading for my Charter Bulldog. I may have inherited the mold when we moved him into assisted living, I'll have to look around and see. The revolver in question is a Taurus. I like the gun, but it hasn't shown itself to be real accurate. Honestly, it's probably a seven yard gun like the Bulldog, maybe that's why it hits high at "normal" handgun ranges. Might be best for me to just accept that.

I have a 155 grain .45 SWC mold I haven't used yet, I should give that a try in my .45 Colt revolvers.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Just as a note but many of the old pistols had hold over sighting ideas .
Applied liberally and loosely the 1860&1858 44s were sighted for 50 yd . That held over into modern revolvers until the advent of the 7 yd SD mindset for everything under 4" . Whether or not that is the case here is not known but it offers an explanation for the "shoots way high" pistols .
The original US Army SAA and S&W Schofields were said to be sighted in at 100 yards.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Can't argue that I knew the Walkers and Dragoons were and that the copies made today are also sighted for 100 yd . I was sure the SAA was 50 yd ...... Oh well it's way more than 25 or modern defense .....
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Can't argue that I knew the Walkers and Dragoons were and that the copies made today are also sighted for 100 yd . I was sure the SAA was 50 yd ...... Oh well it's way more than 25 or modern defense .....
I have read that he original SAA's were sighted in for the original 250/36 grains of black load. The sights were never changed when the Army standardize on the Schofield load with 230/28 grains of black. Those were suppose to hit at 50 yards. FWIW
 

fiver

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my USFA's pushed to about 750-800 fps with a 250 hit pretty much right on top of the front sight at 50 yds.
I'd forgot about that.
the 160's pushed to about the same speed [same powder amount] just kinda poked themselves at the 3 yd. targets in cowboy shooting, but airc were flat dead spot on at @ 25yds. in the lever rifle.
I always carried a few of them for head shooting grouse during deer season.