1911 Style v. Heel Style magazine release

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
When it comes to magazine releases on pistols, the major distinction we see are the 1911 style button verses the heel type catch. These are sometimes referred to as the American style and the European style, which has always struck me as a bit odd and I’ll address that issue later.

There’s little argument that the 1911 style release coupled with a free-falling magazine is the faster of the two systems but there’s more to the big picture than absolute speed. The heel type release is not quite as “slick” as the 1911 style, but the heel type release has some real-world strengths that are often overlooked.

In most military situations, a shooter will not completely discard his empty magazines. Regardless of the type of weapon (light machinegun, rifle, carbine, pistol, etc.) the operator will have a finite number of magazines for that weapon, and he will retain and reload those magazines. Because the deliberate retention of empty magazines is the normal procedure, a heel type magazine release is not an impediment.

When we focus on pistols, the heel type magazine release has the advantage of being very secure. You are less likely to inadvertently dislodge a magazine locked in a pistol with a heel type release. Again, speed is not the critical factor, security of the magazine is the primary concern. This does not imply that the 1911 style release is prone to accidentally releasing the magazine. (it is not) The heel release is more of the “belt and suspenders” approach. I know a guy that carries a H&K PSP with a heel type release and prefers it to the paddle type release on a H&K P7M8. He could easily afford a P7M8 and he intentionally sought out a PSP for its greater security in retaining the magazine under adverse conditions.

Americans will generally accept the heel type release on older designs such as the 1903 Colt. They will also accept the heel style release on target/plinking guns such as the Ruger Standard pistol or MKII models. However, when the focus shifts to self-defense pistols, Americans will often turn their noses up when confronted with a heel style magazine release. Despite the fact that, with practice, heel style releases can be operated quickly; Americans overwhelmingly want a 1911 style magazine release on pistols used for serious work.

Over the last 120+ years, Europeans seem to have been a little more tolerant of the heel type magazine release. Obviously the 1911 style release has become the standard on many full-sized combat pistols, regardless of their origin but the heel type release was far more common, for far more years, across the pond.

Then we get to the whole, “American” verses “European” labels for magazine releases. I’ve always found it odd that the Luger pistols had a button style magazine release located behind the trigger years before the John Browning designs adopted a similar style magazine release. The Lugers and the Walther PP had button style releases, but many European pistols utilized a heel release. The common labels switched, and the heel release system become colloquially known as a “European” style magazine release despite the fact that European pistols had button releases before the American pistols did. Oh well, such is history.

While the vast majority of my pistols incorporate a 1911 style magazine release, I find the heel style magazine release to have some unique, under-appreciated strengths.
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
US "gamers" are trained on needing 450 rounds in a gun fight. In reality, the average is four (4) to settle the issue. The exception is a fight with gangbangers who shoot four magazines against each other to show power and dominance. Unless you are in LE, a J frame Smith is good to go. Tactical reloads is a myth.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
When we initially started training our folks with the autopistol in 1987, the reloading regimen was to let spent or partially-full magazines drop free. That was state-of-the-art at that time, thanks to IPSC and similar gun-gamer disciplines. A few years down the road my shop had an incident with the SWAT team vs. a monster with an HK-91 and similar distractions. The SWATfolk hosed the bad guy's firing point liberally with 223 and 9mm rounds in full-auto mode, dropping magazines as they retreated to hard cover. There were few spare magazines available for the SMGs, M-16s, or sidearms, and most of what the team DID have in inventory were now lying between the hard cover the members were behind and the bad guy's firing point--in the killing field, IOW. That was an uncomfortable night and early morning on that perimeter. Thankfully, we did not lose any personnel that night (two were wounded, one slightly and another moderately).

Soon after this near-debacle, our reloading regimen department-wide was modified to RETAIN spent magazines during engagements and qualifications. There was quite a bit of talk a few years later about adopting one pistol system and caliber department-wide, and that hasn't happened yet. LAPD stores crates of filled magazines for their issued sidearms in sergeant's cars, and we do that with patrol rifle magazines in a nod to our Norco Bank Robbery experience from 1980. They make haste slowly, politely expressed.

I agree with P&P's belief that Euro-locked magazines are not the huge handicap they have been made out to be by the gun gamers. Most of the time, that 4 rounds per engagement standard holds true--except when it doesn't, which has happened just often enough during my career to keep an open mind about the concept.
 
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Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Both systems have their strengths. I don't think the heel style release is as bad as it is often portrayed.

From a historical viewpoint the 1911 style (button) clearly became the dominant system in full size combat pistols in America. In Europe the 1911 style button was widely adopted even prior to WWII but, the heel release continued to be prevalent even into the 1970's.

While many pre-war European designs such as the Browning Hi-Power, TT-33 and Vis Radom, had a 1911 style magazine release; the heel style release remained on pistols such as the P-38, the Beretta 1934/1935 models and others. The heel style release remained popular even post war and is seen on Soviet Makarov's, The Swiss Model 49 (P210) and even as late as the Walther P5.

The Europeans seemed to be a little more open to both systems, or at least held onto the heel release style longer. I don't know if that was tradition, intentional design, or just happenstance.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Only right handed individuals care for the 1911 style mag releases. Being a southpaw, not so much. Granted some manufactures are offering reversible but a lot are not.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Well there's something I hadn't considered.
While some 1911 style magazines releases can be reversed, all heel releases are ambidextrous.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Only right handed individuals care for the 1911 style mag releases. Being a southpaw, not so much. Granted some manufactures are offering reversible but a lot are not.
I disagree. I depress my 1911 magazine release with the social finger of my left hand whilst reloading at speed. I also often catch the released mag with my right hand, using the smaller fingers of the right hand. The new magazine is inserted with the first two fingers and thumb of my right hand, and seated with the palm of the right hand. I prefer magazine releases in the typical right-hand orientation.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Southpaws have learned to cope in a predominantly right handed world. I can and do operate my Browning HP just that way. However, we shouldn't have to.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
Southpaws have learned to cope in a predominantly right handed world.
This! I'm a southpaw and I get along with 1911's just fine. The mag release has never bothered me. I do insist on installing an ambi-safety. I have had issue when carrying a pistol with 1911 style mag release sans holster inside my waistband. It is possible to bend just right and have your belt depress the release button without knowing it. The solution is simple, carry in a holster either inside or outside your waistband.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
My favorite, albeit totally fictional, example of lefties adapting to a right handed world is the American sniper in "Saving Private Ryan". He operates the bolt of his 1903 Springfield with his left hand by reaching over the rifle.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
That's How I did it with my first centerfire rifle. A '95 Mauser in 7x57 from a display of 30 or 40 in a barrel at K'mart sporting goods department. I think it cost me $17. Reach over the action and rack the straight unbent bolt. Worked fine for iron sighted rifles. Then I got ahold of my first LH Remington 788's. Ruined me. :rolleyes:
 
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Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I disagree. I depress my 1911 magazine release with the social finger of my left hand whilst reloading at speed. I also often catch the released mag with my right hand, using the smaller fingers of the right hand. The new magazine is inserted with the first two fingers and thumb of my right hand, and seated with the palm of the right hand. I prefer magazine releases in the typical right-hand orientation.
That works for us lefties, until we become senior citizens and arthritis sets into our hands and we can no longer do so.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
The only thing that matters is what works for you.

Charles, is that a model 64?
Yep..tis a 64. Easy to carry in one of Simply Rugged Sourdough holsters. Nice feathered walnut grips made by Glen Fryxell. I picked up a decent supply of Speer Gold Dot 135 gr. Short Barrel +P loads which seem to be all the rage now. I still have a couple of boxes of Federal 125 grain HP +P loads, plus a box or two of the Remington FBI loads. Of course I also handload and am way deep in cases, bullets, powder and primers. I also have a dozen or so more 38 Special S&W and Colt pistols in various configurations. Yes, I do know the difference between a pistol and a revolver, but when I was a kid, they were all pistols and I am now in my second childhood.
 
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Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
I've had several 2" S&W K-frames, including a couple of model 64's.
Stainless Steel, excellent DA, handy size, absolute reliability and very durable - that's a tough combination to beat.
 

david s

Well-Known Member
I had a hybrid magazine release on a Beretta 92S. A 1911 style push release but on the bottom rear of the lower left grip panel. I'm a lefty also so 1911's mag releases are done with the trigger finger, this requires a bit of a grip shift for me. CZ makes a variant of there model 75 pistol called the model 85. It has dual (ambi) safety paddles and dual (both a right and left side) slide release I'm not sure about it's magazine release being ambidextrous. Oddly enough it has less appeal to me than a model 75 with just an ambidextrous safety. Ed Brown and I believe Wilson use to offer a variation of the Hogue cylinder releases, not quite as long. Back when PPC revolvers were a thing.