22 LR Lube

Outpost75

Active Member
CCI uses 160-degree melting point paraffin [the black looking "jelly jar wax"] on their Blazer, Standard Velocity and Green Tag. But the Blazer which is loaded by Federal-ATK in Anoka, MN uses a water emulsion of Japan or synthetric microcrystalline wax.

The important difference is that when applied the hot paraffin covers the entire bullet up to the case mouth, which also waterproofs the rounds so that they will stand a full wash, spin and rinse cycle in Momma's washing machine.

No such luck with the water emulsions commonly used on plated bullets, as the lube is applied before the bullets are loaded into charged cases and crimped. Furthermore, the knurl on the crimping machine cuts through the lubricant film, exposing raw lead, which then later oxidizes, which explains why plated bullets frequently develop white oxide with age, which precludes easy chambering.

Best way to salvage old .22 LR Match ammo which has oxidized, is to make a coarse wiping rag of washed, fabric softened, and spun dried BURLAP from a grain sack. Moisten this with pure mineral oil USP from the pharmacy. Use the lightly moistened coarse rag to wipe accumulated oxide off and then check diameter 100% by inserting each round into a 5.7mm diameter drill gage then wipe off any excess oil with a baby diaper and rebox.

The residual oil only is adequate for match pistol use. For rifle use in long barrels, relube the bullets with 50-50 olive oil-beeswax, Ben's or 45-45-10.
 

JustJim

Well-Known Member
Thanks for posting this. I've got some .22s I'll have to give this a try with--I really didn't want to pull them down.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Brett,
I had a disagreement with one of the chosen few.
After a couple of back and forths with an admin I was banned.
Then started to get some rather disturbing E mails so contacted
Gunload Master and he removed all info on me from the site.
Have never looked back and do not miss it.
Go there ever so often just to see if the person is still there.
Even more condescending than before.

Jim
I don't even know who the players are over there anymore. All I know for sure is that there was a lot of $$$ going to one person who was supposed to be dead broke and he and I happened to be on another completely unrelated board. He posted pics of his new motorcycle over there, but pled poverty at the other casting site. Rubbed me the wrong way for sure. That was shortly after I was "perma-banned" for letting people know I was done there after the anti-LEO stuff got too much to take and sharing my email with them. I put a lot of $$$ into that place. Never again!
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
I don't even know who the players are over there anymore. All I know for sure is that there was a lot of $$$ going to one person who was supposed to be dead broke and he and I happened to be on another completely unrelated board. He posted pics of his new motorcycle over there, but pled poverty at the other casting site. Rubbed me the wrong way for sure. That was shortly after I was "perma-banned" for letting people know I was done there after the anti-LEO stuff got too much to take and sharing my email with them. I put a lot of $$$ into that place. Never again!
Yup, it was the anti LEO stuff that pushed me over the edge. That and some days reading the posts between people disagreeing was like trying to work a family disturbance.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Brett,
I remember a guy and his wife who lived in a very small cabin in Maine. I know his nom de forum but won't say it. He kept complaining about his truck being junk and not running and its suspension was rusted and all the inconveniences it posed for him and his wife and how they couldn't keep doctor's appointments and buy groceries and couldn't afford to buy a replacement. The forum owner set up a collection and the money forwarded to the guy to buy a truck. My first thought was the entire story was a scam, but the woes kept coming and members were becoming more concerned about their well being. I'll admit to finally being sucked in, and sent $20 to the forum owner.

I can't recall exactly, but there was another sad tale and too late I realized the entire truck episode was a scam. Neither can I recall its time frame and when I self-exiled from the site, but suspect they were very close.
 

obssd1958

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure where you're implying the scam was, but I'm the individual who started and ran the fundraiser for the couple in Maine. The forum owner allowed it, but had nothing to do with collecting funds, or forwarding those funds to the couple - I did.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
i remember him too [grey wolf?] I sent in a check for a fairly decent fund to get him some new wheels.
I'd hate to be in the bind he was in at the time.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
I'm not sure where you're implying the scam was, but I'm the individual who started and ran the fundraiser for the couple in Maine. The forum owner allowed it, but had nothing to do with collecting funds, or forwarding those funds to the couple - I did.

Pretty sure he wasn't referencing anyone in Maine. Was a different situation that I remember.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
the second one [I think] was someone else pulling a sob story, but their situation was from their own doing.
we used to help a number of people over there, remember when John Thiel's barn burned down?
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
I'm not sure where you're implying the scam was, but I'm the individual who started and ran the fundraiser for the couple in Maine. The forum owner allowed it, but had nothing to do with collecting funds, or forwarding those funds to the couple - I did.

If the truck fund was on the up and up, I offer my sincerest apologies to the couple and you. If I remember correctly, my $20 check was mailed to a man in Idaho who I thought was the site's owner.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I donated to grey wolf's truck fund too, and never felt it was a scam. JD was a big force behind the drive too as I recall. The only money I ever sent to Willy was a one-time member upgrade and I got into a big spat with him when it auto-renewed the next year.

There were other scams. The Hi-tec lady's never ending sib stories come to mind.

I remember John's barn. Tried to donate something to him and he said no, it was insured and though that won't cover but a small part of what he lost, it wasn't like he lost his house or clothes.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
the guy in Idaho is Willy.
[he owned the server the site was on, originally boolits was a side room to the gunloads site, it took off, and the gunloads place seen almost zero traffic, then eventually was abandoned]
part of my final tiff with Robert was about some of Willy's B.S.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
The last straw for me was the nonsense generated by the search under way for Christopher Dorner in Feb. 2013 in southern California. Just a passel of cop-hating drama queens. I didn't get completely tossed, but only have access to about 30% of the site content.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
i remember him too [grey wolf?] I sent in a check for a fairly decent fund to get him some new wheels.
I'd hate to be in the bind he was in at the time.
That wasn't the guy I was referring to.
 
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358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Are you thinking of Bullshop JR? That went on a couple of times from what I remember. That was shortly before I self-terminated at CB. I do miss some things there, but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.