22LR casting and reloading kit (no fooling!)

Elric

Elric

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Well... I was surfing for Youtube videos on removing the Ruger MkII extractor.. anyways, one of the related videos was by BC from Deuce and Bullets.. The combination mold and crimp tool reminds me of the Ideal tools. You can use matchheads or capgun tapes to make the priming compund. The aluminum mold gets quite hot, probably needs some judisious filing to get the halves to be flush.

I wish you could still buy rimfire cases by themselves... you take a little tool and scrape out the used priming compound. I did see 700x mentioned... Give me primed 22LR cases, and this could be a beautiful thing... But this is more for survivalists....

http://22lrreloader.com/

What??? Resizing dies for 22LR -OR- 22WMR cases! o_O

Reloading 22lr Part 1

Reloading 22lr part 2
 
pokute

pokute

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Ya know, the 22lr has been around for like 200 years, and it only took until about 198 years ago that somebody first sold that kit. Charlie Askins tried it and found it was a bum deal, so instead he had a Colt Woodsyman modified to shoot centerfire, and loaded 5.5 velo-dog cartridges for it. He made up all kinds of stories about how great it was, being the kind of guy who would never miss a chance to send a mess of folks off on a wild dog chase on bicycles: http://www.bullseyepistol.com/askins.htm
 
Mike W1

Mike W1

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Just a side note but back in the early 60's I worked a short time for Pinnell & Talifson on Kodiak Island. Remember Bill saying something about Askin's personality that's gone with time but do remember him saying Askins was probably the best shot he'd ever seen.
 
pokute

pokute

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Askins personality and shooting ability were both legendary. One in a good way. Askins book "Unrepentant Sinner" is the raving of a psychopath.
 
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pokute

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My friend Guy (changed his name from Willard) grew up on Hemingway. Not a good result. Wound up with a degree in literature, a rusty motorcycle, and an inability to commit to a relationship or a loan payment schedule. Even his friends occasionally want to see him demonstrate how big the entrance and exit wounds actually were.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I forget which of the well know gun writers said it, but his opinion of Askins Jr was not very flattering. No one doubted his skill and ability and his talent, but he was not someone you'd want to be around much according to that other guy. Probably about like today, a lot of well known people are really bums once you get behind the facade.
 
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John

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A close friends late mother once replied that you should not know your heroes. She talked about the exception being Jimmy Stewart who lied on a federal application, overstating his weight so he could be accepted in to the armed forces in WW2.


The 22 lr is not the preppers answer, the 32 long is.
 
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Ian

Ian

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I maintain that the 5.56x45 is the prepper's answer. If you can't find that stuff, or cast and load for it at any level you want, then you have much bigger problems.
 
fiver

fiver

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I'm still laughing at that video.
he wasted a box of matches to make about 40 Remington thunderbolts.
and he has now ruined 40 pieces of 22LR brass that could have been used to make a real bullet.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
There's no easy answer in a "preppers world", although the 32 S+W short and long are certainly options if you have primers. Some might suggest a flintlock. Well, flints are darn scare around me. A bow and arrow might be an option. As far as food, a 220 Conibear trap will bag a lot of it.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

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Well then you have guys like me that live in places where scavengers are as big a threat as trying to find something to eat . For a long time I favored the 38/357 . The 357 being sufficient for even loading screened BP ......it still faces the primer issue .
My current location would tend to not be an ammo shortage situation but it would be difficult to access depending on the situation .

Nothing wrong with a pistol and rifle in companion cartridges and straight walls that can be cut back or made out of something else .
 
fiver

fiver

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you could probably buy 2 bricks of primers [or about 6 million pellets] for the cost of one of these kits.
2,000 rounds is a lot of ammo, when your not just shooting it at the range.

too many of us have more ammo in a bucket or on a shelf in the basement than most saddle bums seen in their lifetime.
 
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John

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That is true about the back shelves. I agree with Bret that a 220 Conibear and a set line are essentials,
 
Rally Hess

Rally Hess

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I believe a pocket full of snares, a good knife, and anything that chambered a nato round, a guy could keep going a long time. In such a scenario, there will be lots of ammo and firearms laying around and you can only carry so much ammo.
 
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Elric

Elric

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Fire makin' steel. Be all the mall ninja you can be, loaded with blades and ammo, but in the wilds of south central WI, it's a few degrees below zero right now. At a minimum, a small hatchet for firewood and camp prep. Harder to make your primitive lean-to with a folding knife...
 
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deltaenterprizes

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I have been working on a version of the 221 Askins for a while, I can’t find Velodog brass but have figured out a work around but it is time consuming.
I had been thinking about it before that ammo craze.
I have been sidetracked because of moving and just getting the reloading room barely functional.
Hopefully as the weather gets warmer I can get back to work on a single shot rifle for it.
A revolver conversion might be next.
 
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