32ACP Pocket Pistol Itch

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freebullet

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Had a pps9 great gun. No experience with the others you asked about. If you did go kel tec go ahead and order a throating reamer, extra extractor Springs, & Dremel buffs. If that was done it would/could be fun.

Another interesting option would be the black widow in 22mag. They make some spectacular rounds for them and it's a great deep concealment peice. Otherwise my pick would be p938 or p238 for your originally stated application.

JW
Those are beautiful, thanks for sharing. A friend has a savage similar or maybe pre dating that one. He needs some things to cast for it yet & a magazine.

Ric
Thank you for sharing your experience and opinions on that issue. My experience is a bit different in that 380 does expand reliable. But mine is on game animals & varmints. Definitely different situations. I really enjoyed the 32 I had and have nothing against it. I used it with fp solid jax (didn't cast at the time). It does perform admirable used that way, so it seems our thoughts on that are the same. Just looking to learn anything more.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
freebullet said:
If you did go kel tec go ahead and order a throating reamer, extra extractor Springs, & Dremel buffs. If that was done it would/could be fun.
Ric
Thank you for sharing your experience and opinions on that issue. My experience is a bit different in that 380 does expand reliable. But mine is on game animals & varmints. Definitely different situations. I really enjoyed the 32 I had and have nothing against it. I used it with fp solid jax (didn't cast at the time). It does perform admirable used that way, so it seems our thoughts on that are the same. Just looking to learn anything more.
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Last shooting war was over about 1998. South and Central Americans and the "Cubanos" all used 22, 32 and 380's for their work here, as that is what they were used to. At that time there was quite of bit of HP 380's (S&W, SilverTips, etc.) that they had to use as Hard Ball was hard to find around here. Those guys are mostly gone, either prison or home. The guys on the street tell me now that "everybody" of the new generation have 9's or 40's with big mags. They don't carry the guns, either one of the juvenile apprentices or their woman carries the gun. They are never alone, and can get the gun fast enough for their work.

I am sure that the new ammo is better, but no one I talk too has seen a 32 or 380 used in a shooting in years! Cabela's has 15 shot S&W black plastic guns for $299 this week on sale.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Somewhere in my collection of research material there is reference to a smith back in the post-WW2 era that made extended length barrels for the Walthers in 32ACP. Might have made slides too IIRC. Anyway, the author stated that they turned the lowly 32 ACP and Walthers into woodsmans guns extraordinaire! Of course finding something like a 6" Walther PP is going to be about like finding a twin to Ursula Andress working at the local Walmart, but it could, maybe, possibly happen. I've never seen one outside of that one article. What a neat rig that would be though.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Bret, Ed Harris had an 8" made for his Berretta about 10 years ago when he began working with 32 ACP. There are several articles about it on the CBA website.
 
Pistolero

Pistolero

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Actually, the .380 version from KelTech P3AT is within about 1/8" or so of the same size,
basically the same gun, cannot tell in the hand between the .32 and the .380, a lot more
effective if need be.

Bill
 
JWFilips

JWFilips

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Observation: From A shootable standpoint : The Savage 1917 was a Real dog....Jammed a lot even with factory ammo & inaccurate! Sold that one off.
The FEG what could I say Super accurate & Exposed hammer Reminded me of a 1911. Way too expensive to play with ( I probably shot it more the the Officer that had it!) sold that off for $700
The Mauser 1914 is very accurate at 20 yds with oversized cast & It has a well worn barrel
The MAB bore is at .309" but I shoot .313" cast in it It is very accurate at 20 yds The brass does go into the next county!
The ortgies is extremely accurate at 25 yds with cast However it is 6" high with fixed sights
My JA-32 is a 7 yard gun! It is accurate at that range with cast. It will not shoot factory at all. It's bore is oversize and needs the unsized 314" Ranch Dogs as dropped
It will stop bad guys but won't shoot targets. It is small very heavy but dependable. It is not a plastic pistol Can't go wrong at 149.95! Yes I guess it would be called a SNS!
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
FWIW, I have almost no experience with the 32ACP but scads and scads with the 32 S+W and Long. IMO, they do a great job on small game. Using a heavier than standard (115gr 311316, no GC) bullet they do fine on stuff in the 20lbs and under. Of course that's out of a rifle, not an auto pistol. I'd want a FN for sure if sure a critter could be found and would feed.
 
Pistolero

Pistolero

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I have a Savage double stack .32ACP that runs fine, not sure the exact model. Has what
appears to be a hammer which is actually just a cocking lever/indicator for the striker.

Ric - the "frame" on the .32 ACP and P3AT KelTech's are NOT the serial numbered part. Damage
one and replace it for $35 last time I looked, just a part, chunk of plastic.

Merry Christmas to everyone!

Bill
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Have a small collection of Savage 32's and 380's, great little guns, EXCEPT!!!! There has never been a good replacement magazine made for them. Because of the unique two square hole latching system, repros just punch a round hole so after they have been in and out a few times the magazine falls down and rounds don't strip out. There is a reason one factory original magazine is worth as much as the rest of the pistol. Eleven shots in a small package that loves modern 60 grain HP's if that is your ammo of choice.

You are correct, the aluminum block that holds the pins is the numbered "pistol". Luckily I could heat the plastic frame in the microwave and reform it.
 
yodogsandman

yodogsandman

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Bad news, The Kel Tec I was looking at was a used gun. I held it on Friday and while it was OK, I didn't like being able to see through the slide. The space was about 1/16" and it was slanted back toward the rear as opposed to being of equal distance across the whole split. This split was between the frame and the slide. I'm going to pass on this one. Going to look at the Jimmenez next.
 
Pistolero

Pistolero

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I looked on the web and my Savage .32 is the later model with the hooked tip hammer, not
the burr hammer. I'd feel safer with it than with my Swiss Army knife, but it isn't my first
choice.

Kel Tech has a good warranty, I hear. Probably buy one with a prob and send it
back, get it fixed for free.

Bill
 
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I have (with moderate interest) considered a Walther GSP-C in 32 SWL wadcutter. The pricing of higher-order 32 SWL revolvers makes such a move almost reasonable, comparatively speaking.

Along a similar line, Pardini makes a serious (and expensive) target pistol in 32 ACP. I've known the 32 ACP to shoot very well in pocket blowbacks like my Walther PP, but I'm surprised to see its use for ISU-type competition.

Harking back to Bret's comments on the 32 SWL's capabilities, it is a darn shame that so few good guns are made for these mild but effective mid-calibers.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Speed, sir, SPEED sells guns. The industry is never going to convince Americans that a .32 is a self-defense cartridge, not H&R Mag nor 327 Federal. If they would make a well finished, 32 Long with 4 - 6 inch barrel weighting 28 -30 ounces and have adjustable rear sight, I believe they would sell. The cravat is that they have to have good smooth well cut chambers and barrels. If they would spend money on quality rather than flash, they would sell. IMHO, Ric
 
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yodogsandman said:
Jimmenez next.
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Mmmmm, if the 9mm my neighbor had is any indication of Jimenez quality you won't be impressed. It somehow was designed to hurt your hand upon firing(yes even a lowly 9mm), it don't fire without the mag in, heavy, clunky, numerous jams of all types, & that don't count the obscene trigger.

Kel tec is a few steps above that one imo.
 
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