.348 Winchester.
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Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
As far as molds go Accurate has 4 or 5 listed. Can't help you with cast loads as yet, I'm just getting started with my 71. Only have a LEE 6 cavity old group buy I lucked into, still new in the box, 350 250, came with a .350 H&I die.
Keep us posted on your progress.
Keep us posted on your progress.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
I think I'm going to make sure mine is sighted in with some factory fodder from the shelf. Looked last night and I have couple boxes of Remington 150's, 200's, and a couple of Winchester Silvertip 200's and one box of Buffalo Bore 250's. So I feeling the need to empty some brass so I can reload some.
The LEE mold I have is a 225 grain and not a 250. So, I better slug the bore and email Accurate about that 300 he lists. Don't see a lot of need for a 250 at this time. Down the road, yes.
The LEE mold I have is a 225 grain and not a 250. So, I better slug the bore and email Accurate about that 300 he lists. Don't see a lot of need for a 250 at this time. Down the road, yes.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Ran across this thread while looking for another topic and thought I'd report on my 348 now that I've blown the dust off it.
Finally got a chance to do some rifle shooting today from my newish shooting shed. Last fall The range was lined out nicely for a full 100 yards. Anyway one of the rifles for today's line up was my Winchester 71. This rifle has been nicely altered to a 20" barrel, full magazine, and since it's not original I put a Decelerator recoil pad on it. I would not have installed it if the gun wasn't already diddled with, but, I like it!! It also has a Lyman receiver sight on it and I have a box of Remington 150 grain cartridges that needed to be unloaded. All in all this rifle is nicely put together. Looks right.
Started at 25 yards, then 50, couple at each range. Set up at 100 and dialed it in, the last 4 shots just a touch over 1&1/2 inches at 2 inches high. Nice!! Shoots like a dream
Finally got a chance to do some rifle shooting today from my newish shooting shed. Last fall The range was lined out nicely for a full 100 yards. Anyway one of the rifles for today's line up was my Winchester 71. This rifle has been nicely altered to a 20" barrel, full magazine, and since it's not original I put a Decelerator recoil pad on it. I would not have installed it if the gun wasn't already diddled with, but, I like it!! It also has a Lyman receiver sight on it and I have a box of Remington 150 grain cartridges that needed to be unloaded. All in all this rifle is nicely put together. Looks right.
Started at 25 yards, then 50, couple at each range. Set up at 100 and dialed it in, the last 4 shots just a touch over 1&1/2 inches at 2 inches high. Nice!! Shoots like a dream
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I would imagine the Decelerator makes it a much more pleasant rifle to shoot.
Missionary
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Good morning
Generally my 140 pounds is very happy with a recoil absorber. We have a good supply of slip on pads that are always with us for firing most anything above 30-06.
Our 375 "thwapers" (H&H) and bigger are slowly getting permanent fixtures.
Generally my 140 pounds is very happy with a recoil absorber. We have a good supply of slip on pads that are always with us for firing most anything above 30-06.
Our 375 "thwapers" (H&H) and bigger are slowly getting permanent fixtures.
Glaciers
Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
I find stocks on most rifles to be short. To me this leads to getting more cheek bone on the stock rather the check. So I won't shorten a stock for a pad as some rifles I run across. The pad obviously helps with recoil, but the added length gets my face, when sighting especially on the bench in a good match up. I'm not a big guy, well tall anyway, recoil has never been a problem with a longer length of pull.
This 71 came to me with a 12 3/4" Montecarlo (after market) stock including the old style waffle recoil pad. I was lucky enough to find an original short tang stock in good shape for $20. With pad it's right at 14 inches.
I also find smaller people roll with recoil rather then big guys that tend to stop recoil. Took out bear hunters from time to time to the islands and you see all and sizes and shapes of people with every "bear" caliber under the Sun. This one hunt that comes to mind was booked buy my orthopedic Doctor/Surgeon. George shot a 270 and at the other end of the group was a Military contractor for Blackwater who was about 5'7" 140 pounds if I dipped him in the bay. George was average about 180 shooting a 270 and Blackwater was shooting a 416 Rigby. From what George said this guy could shoot. We were after black bear, an on the coast they tend to be bigger then the Bears in the interior of the state, just as the brown bears are. Anyway 416 Rigby with full house 400 grainers can be a handful. I'm a believer in carrying enough gun for critters that you might run into. Of course the individuals capabilities have to be factored into the equation.
This group consisted of a Doctor, two uniformed officers of the law, all Alaskans and Mr. Blackwater from parts unknown. One of the few groups that I felt comfortable with their level of commonsense, didn't have to quiz and inspect. Hate having to go rescue know-it-Alls.
This 71 came to me with a 12 3/4" Montecarlo (after market) stock including the old style waffle recoil pad. I was lucky enough to find an original short tang stock in good shape for $20. With pad it's right at 14 inches.
I also find smaller people roll with recoil rather then big guys that tend to stop recoil. Took out bear hunters from time to time to the islands and you see all and sizes and shapes of people with every "bear" caliber under the Sun. This one hunt that comes to mind was booked buy my orthopedic Doctor/Surgeon. George shot a 270 and at the other end of the group was a Military contractor for Blackwater who was about 5'7" 140 pounds if I dipped him in the bay. George was average about 180 shooting a 270 and Blackwater was shooting a 416 Rigby. From what George said this guy could shoot. We were after black bear, an on the coast they tend to be bigger then the Bears in the interior of the state, just as the brown bears are. Anyway 416 Rigby with full house 400 grainers can be a handful. I'm a believer in carrying enough gun for critters that you might run into. Of course the individuals capabilities have to be factored into the equation.
This group consisted of a Doctor, two uniformed officers of the law, all Alaskans and Mr. Blackwater from parts unknown. One of the few groups that I felt comfortable with their level of commonsense, didn't have to quiz and inspect. Hate having to go rescue know-it-Alls.
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smokeywolf
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Winchester did a better than fair job of configuring weight, balance and stock to minimize felt recoil. While I'm carrying about 40 lbs. more than I need, I'm only 5'8" and the recoil from my model 71 seems less punishing than that from the 1905 mfg. (Nickel Steel barrel) Model '86 SRC with warmer loads (50 grns. of 3031) pushing 405 grns. of lead.
Missionary
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That is a good observation about shooters weight I had never thought about.
I figured out years back a bench with a above caliber .30 was going to be rough. But I can shoot most any rifle off cross sticks without getting bruised.
I figured out years back a bench with a above caliber .30 was going to be rough. But I can shoot most any rifle off cross sticks without getting bruised.
CZ93X62
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Nor did a whole lot of other people. I'm going to hunt with mine this Fall, probably with some sort of Condor Cuddler bullet, either by Barnes or home-brewed in one of the Lyman moulds I have yet to snag from Ammohead.
EVERYTHING for the 348 Winchester is scarce and expensive. I used to think a couple of my 22 LR arms were my Cotillion Debutantes; fussy, temperamental, demanding, and impossible to please--this Miroku plagiarism puts those 22s deeply in the shade.
smokeywolf
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What little I've seen and everything I've heard, say that the Miroku version is at least as good and in many cases better than the original Winchester models.
Being a dedicated Winchester man, that's hard for me to say.
I've seen the same thing in the motion picture industry. Post WW II, the Japanese took the Mitchell motion picture camera movement, played with it, made some minor changes to it, renamed it, "the Seki movement" and it became superior to the Mitchell camera movement.
CZ93X62
Official forum enigma
To be clear--Miroku builds a BEAUTIFUL, faithful-to original Winchester repro. The rifle is GREAT--but the gathering of components and tooling has been an adventure. The component drought we are in adds flavor to the mix as well. Oh, well, first-world problem. I'll quiet down now.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I'm not afraid to admit I dislike getting the snot beat out of me by heavy recoiling rifles. The fun went out of that pastime a long, long time ago. Add arthritis in the mix and I tend to look for ways to work around the pain involved. The good old fashioned 25 lbs of bagged shot still works off the bench and the crossed sticks or ladder for a rest idea works for standing. My hat is off and my bald head fully exposed as I bow to those who can find any fun in getting hammered by a heavy recoiling rifle or shotgun with a poorly designed stock that's likely at least an inch or 2 shorter than it needs to be! You can have my share of that fun!!!
smokeywolf
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I have to be careful about rifles that, as my father used to put it, "kill on both ends". I have so many floaters in my dominant eye it's like looking through a microscope at a slide loaded with very dirty water.
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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
RJ,
Seems we have the same vision problems. I'll only add that mine has a layer of plastic food wrap sitting on top of the slide of little germy thingies and dirty water.