35x30/30

todd

todd

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i don't have a .358" rifle. never had one and never shot one. i've killed deer with the .224" the whole way up to .510", but never a .358". :headscratch: well, thats a problem.


this fall, i want a cz527 in 7.62x39 . this will be my back-up rifle when i'm older and can't shoot my big bores too well. next year i was going to buy a howa mini mauser and rebarrel or rebore it to 358x39(35grendel or ark or....as long as it is based on 7.62x39). AND then i had a epiphany (alright i's jus thought it!!!)"why don't you take your win m94 30-30 to a 35x30/30?".

i haven't used my m94 for about 25+/- years. she retired and i went to another cartridge(s). it was made in 1973 or '74, so a rebore is a good option. the m94, when i first had her, was put into my clothes closet. then for some reason or another, i put her in between my mattress' for 2 or 3 days. when i got her out, there was rust on the gun. everything that i did was for naught. i still have rust on the gun. (this was 20 some years ago) and the front sight was broken when i moved. i know that the m94 is sintered steel, so there is no use in rebluing. but there is cerakote(and some other that i can't remember!!!!) and that is something i have to do anyway. the front site is easy to do, but the back sight on the top eject has to go bye-bye and a peep sight should be put on.

now, i have killed many deer with the thurty-thurty(including my first ever deer, a spike!!!!). it got to the point, that the m94 would go out, leave me sleeping in my bed, and kill the deer, gut it and string her up. and then wake me up :rofl: . that rifle goes with me when i die. i do love the 30/30 but i already have .308" rifle, 30-40 krag. (i used to have 4 or 5 '06 and 308) but i never had a .358". so i said to myself, "make it a 35x30/30 in your m94!!!!"
hmmmm.....ch4d should be able to make dies and i still have 30-30 brass........JES makes the rebore.....i do like cast boolits, say 200-250gr fn gc.........i'm in!!!!


what do you think?
 
CZ93X62

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
35-30/30 was one of the options I explored when the chamber on my flatband Win 94 in 25/35 got spoiled by a dacron-filler cast bullet load. It was one of my two top choices, and I opted for the other choice--38/55--because when I'm gone and my evil rotten kids :) get my rifles 38/55 is at least commercially-available. And that is the ONLY reason I didn't go 35-30/30.
 
RicinYakima

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Send a PM to Ed Harris here on the forum, Outpost 75, as he wrote several articles on the .35 30/30 over the last 25 years.
 
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35 shooter

Well-Known Member
That’s one that’s been on my mind for years now. In the meantime, I got a 35 whelen and can load it up or down, so never went ahead with the 30/35.

Still on my mind though.
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
I think that's a marvelous idea!

I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread other than my enthusiastic encouragement for someone else to spend their money on one!

Ed has and article on it that I have gone back and read several times. I have a soft spot for the 30-30 specifically and for 35s in general. If I ever happen upon an excess 357 mag or max Contender Carbine barrel really, really cheap, I'd chamber one for me too. I wouldn't be able to hunt with it in Ohio, but if it were cheap enough, I cold justify another barrel for the sake of just fun.

 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
RBHarter said:
Talk to Ranch Dog he did a 35-30 last year or worked out loads for one anyway .
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He had a very nice 190 grain and 175 grain 35 cal bullet for it too, variations of which NOE has and then there's the Lyman 358267 recently discussed here. So much potential for another 35 in one's arsenal.
 
Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Great idea IMO. You wind up with something between a 357 max and 35 Rem. Scads of moulds, brass is easy to get, a smidge of powder and pistol bullet make a great plinking load. Can't help you on the rust/refinish part, but I know there are new finishes available- paint more or less.
 
Ben

Ben

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Staff member
The only problem that I'm aware of with the 35 / 30-30 is the cost of the dies.
A pretty substantial investment to get a new 2 die set .

Ben
 
Ian

Ian

Notorious member
Regarding the finish on the sintered '94s and the rust on the rest of the rifle, Duracoat makes several shades and finishes of "blue" in their hardened, urethane paint. A matte blue/black might be suitable, look here to see the various offerings: https://www.duracoatfirearmfinishes.com/products/durablue?variant=33527890121

Duracoat also makes a filler product (like autobody scratch filler) to take care of pits and scratches. If you tear down and prep the rifle well according to instructions, I think you can make it look really good. The only caveat is it may look "too good", as in a 1950s Colt "foot deep" blue black that just screams inappropriate for the rifle. The bluing replicators are available in rattle-cans and have a little button on the bottom of the can that punctures a capsule of hardener so you can mix it all up and spray it just like Krylon and not need any airbrushes, Preval sprayers, or stuff like that.

If you aren't opposed to other colors, you could Duracoat it in one of their Park replicators or any color you desire, even do a camouflage pattern, but that will take a little more equipment and work. It's been my experience that Duracoat is generally going to be a lot more glossy than you want but matting agent is available to mix with it. Duracoat is available from the source, from Amazon, from Brownell's, and lots of other places.
 
todd

todd

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Ben said:
The only problem that I'm aware of with the 35 / 30-30 is the cost of the dies.
A pretty substantial investment to get a new 2 die set .

Ben
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ch4d makes them at $105.71, yes it is expensive but its only a one time cost.
 
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Rushcreek

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CZ93X62 said:
35-30/30 was one of the options I explored when the chamber on my flatband Win 94 in 25/35 got spoiled by a dacron-filler cast bullet load. It was one of my two top choices, and I opted for the other choice--38/55--because when I'm gone and my evil rotten kids :) get my rifles 38/55 is at least commercially-available. And that is the ONLY reason I didn't go 35-30/30.
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Same here, exactly.
 
todd

todd

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i used a borrowed 375 win to kill deer with. a 38/55 is available, but its not a 35 cal. :)
 
fiver

fiver

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100$ is mid road die prices.
I have a couple that were pushing the 200$ area 20 years back.
LEEE might even make you a size die for 20$ and you could get by with a 358 seat die.
 
fiver

fiver

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the herret might work.
worst thing that happens is you full size in a 32 win die then neck back up to 35 every 3-4 loads.
 
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