91 and 93 mauser?

[todd]

i have a 91 argentine mauser(well, its on the way) and a 93 spanish mauser(1922 or 23) that was bubba-ed up(so bad

). i have a couple or several questions about them.


1. i like aperture sights (lyman, redfield, williams), esp vintage sights. is it possible to do a aperture on a 91 mauser? if it is, what kind?

2. what after market trigger(timney, jewell...) does a 91 argentine mauser fit on?

3. what after market trigger(timney, jewell...) does a 93 spanish mauser fit on?



thanks for your time and effort!!!

 

[fiver]

long before I got all worked up about dropping 2 lbs off a trigger's pull weight
I'd take a good hard long look down inside the throat and muzzle of both rifles.

the Argie will probably still shoot pretty fair no matter how bad the rifling looks or how long that throat appears to be.
I don't know why they just do.
they usually have a decent 5 lb two stage trigger too.

the other one?
you get what you get,, it could be a 7mm with a 29 or 30 cal. throat, or a 29 cal muzzle or both [shrug]

 

[todd]

the 93 spanish barrel is cut off to around 20-21". the rifling is next to none and none. the throat is fried also. i bought it knowing i could take the barrel off and replace it. the "stock" is black walnut but it looks like bubba chainsawed it. its a mess, but i can do another semi-custom mauser for my son.

i have heard that a 91 argentine has a decent trigger, but i don't know. usps has it and they are claiming friday.to deliver it. oh, its a sporterized stock too.

 

[todd]

and i nearly forgot!!! all i want to do with the 91 argentine is to shoot her accurately. my eyes aren't that good anymore. thats why i asked about the aperture.

 

[462]

Todd,
I have a 24" cut-down 1891 that came with an older Lyman 57 SME (the current model differs slightly). It's a perfect fit, though the curved-over-the-top-of-the-receiver bolt release is partially covered, making it somewhat difficult to manipulate. The addition of a Lyman 17 A globe front sight makes it more accurate than my vision allows.

I "beagled" a Lee 312-185 to get a .314" bullet.

Sometime in its past, someone did an excellent job of super-duper precision alignment and drilled and tapped the tang, directly over the trigger's first-stage hump, and installed an Allen set screw. Oh, boy, the trigger can be adjusted to a scary level. I think it was set a 1 1/2 pounds, when I got it, but I backed it out a bit, and even removed for a while.
I don't mind a two-stage trigger, but a nice polish job helps a lot. That said, I installed Timneys in the 03A3 and 1895 Chileno, and two long-gone '98s.

Michael

 

[fiver]

timney's are good ones.
I have been adding Huber ball triggers to my rifles when I get the money.
you have to be careful with them because you can over adjust them into a release trigger, but they give you all sorts of adjustment.

 

[Bret4207]

I'm pretty sure the sights that fit the 93/95 Mausers will fit the 91. If your 91 is anything like mine you will be a very happy camper! Very fun gun and capable of far more in the way of power and accuracy than you'd think. As was mentioned, mine has a decent trigger too. Polishing can certainly help. Email Timney, they can give you the info you need.

 

[todd]

timney says they no longer do a 91 or 93 mauser. but dayton traister does do the 93 spanish mauser and the 98 mauser trigger. huber concepts does the 91 argentine trigger.

Dayton Traister Inc. - The Hawken Shop

1891 Argentine Mauser Trigger – Huber Triggers

 

[462]

Would not an 1895 Chileno Timney fit an 1893 Espanol? Is there a difference in their receivers, where the triggers mount? I know the bolts differ, but don't know about that area of their respective receivers.

 

[Bret4207]

'93, '95 and '96 all called for the same trigger at one time.

 

[todd]

Mark II Trigger Assembly - The Hawken Shop

Mauser Featherweight

The Mauser Featherweight replacement trigger is a fully adjustable drop-in trigger for your Mauser rifle. Made in the USA.

timneytriggers.com

i've used 4 or 5 timney triggers(98 mauser, rem7 and 700's) but this is a first time for the 93 mauser. i always thought('93-'96) that it was the same trigger.
oh well, i have to buy a 98 mauser timney trigger anyway.
for the 93 spanish i buy dayton trigger kit and the 91 argentine it will be a huber.

 

[462]

Okay. I know the '95 and '96 are the same, reckoned the '93 was, too, but have never seen a '93 so wasn't positive.

Todd,
As you may know, be prepared to hog out some wood.

 

[Bret4207]

I forget the exact differences between the '93 and '95, but it comes down to things like a gas escape hole, round or flat bottom bolt, little stuff like that.

 

[todd]

in mine, 93 spanish made in 1922 or 23, the manufacturer cut a gas escape hole. its about the only thing bubba didn't get ahold of!!!!

 

[Bret4207]

There were changes in gas handling over the run of Mausers from the '88 (89?) on up through and past the '98 designs. Some people get real hincky about which is "better" but I have never, ever had any gas issues with a Mauser, and that includes the double charge of Red Dot I once got in my FR8. One heckofa flat primer, but it didn't let go!

 

[todd]

i wish i don't either!!!!!!!

 

[RBHarter]

You'd be surprised by how well a Carcano , Mauser cousin , manages a full on primer vent ............ I'll tell it another time ....

 

[Bret4207]

Yup, I bet. Never heard any complaints about Mannlichers having issues in that area, or Mausers for that matter. Seems like what concerns there were related to military use in the early days of Boxer/Berdan primers and self contained cartridges, often in Africa, India and other very warm places where the sun never set on the Empire. But, I suppose at the time things like gas handling were all part of the arms race of the day.