A Carry Piece for the Mrs. and Son

[Bret4207]

what this country needs is a good 37 caliber semi auto round, with a rimmed twin for the revolver crowd.

They tried that some years back with the 9mm Para and 9mm Federal.


Someone mentioned the 45ACP and deer. I put down I don't know how many deer over a 20 plus year career in LE. The 357 was great, but I put 13 rounds into one doe one night. Nothing gives a one shot DRT kill every single time. The 38 Sec/9mm Gold dot +p+ were about on par, with the vaunted 9mm "FBI subsonic load" being nearly useless. I on'y shot a few deer with the 45GAP. They worked fine, but anything can fail.

 

[fiver]

not 35,,, 37 as in 375.
a shortened to 38 special length, 375 cal throwing 200grs at like 1000 fps.

 

[CZ93X62]

For Lamar and the trivia buffs.......9.8 mm Romanian Autopistol. Colt development for foreign military sales, Belgium/FN called it the 9.65mm Browning. 130 grain bullet, .378"-.381" bullet, 1000+ FPS.

Dunno the status of the 375 Supermag.

Pistol calibers do seem to cluster around the 44-45 caliber (50 lead RBs per pound)--and the 35-36 calibers (100 lead RBs per pound).

 

[Gary]

As opposed to Texas where if it doesn't have dead livestock in its mouth OR the owner's "effective" consent to shoot it, you go to State Prison on a Felony.

Your dead two-year-old daughter in its mouth does not constitute livestock and you will go to prison if you kill the dog back. True story.

I thought Texas had the 3 S rule?

 

[Winelover]

As opposed to Texas where if it doesn't have dead livestock in its mouth OR the owner's "effective" consent to shoot it, you go to State Prison on a Felony.

Your dead two-year-old daughter in its mouth does not constitute livestock and you will go to prison if you kill the dog back. True story.

Well, then is SSS.............Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.

I don't advocate shooting dogs, but nice to have the option, if need be.

I even leave the yote's alone. See plenty of them, on my property.






They have a job to do.................not bothering me, I leave well enough alone.

We were in bed, last evening and a emergency vehicle went down the Hwy with sirens blaring. Cindy asked me if I heard the yotes, singing. Yeah, right................I don't even wear the hearing aids I have.

 

[fiver]

the 375 super is a DIY proposition.
and it definitely is not a carry around for S.D. option.
I guess you could make it one but the 8" barrel is gonna make the CC part a bit tough.

 

[freebullet]

I wouldn't get too worked up about caliber.
projectile and placement is where it's at anyway.

what this country needs is a good 37 caliber semi auto round, with a rimmed twin for the revolver crowd.

What? Do you mean everything under 416 Rigby doesn't bounce off?

I've shot enough things to know a 22, 380, 38, & even 9mil can be effective if you can put them where needed. 45whatev is no more effective on arm hits & probably don't fit in yer pocket.

 

[Gary]

Except that the 45 in the arm would/could remove said limb, again if placed right.

 

[Will]

I vote for the Ruger SP101 in 357 or 327. The SP101 while a little heavier shoots very softly with 38 specials.
The 327 is flat impressive with short barrels and not a lot of recoil.

 

[Rick]

I even leave the yote's alone. See plenty of them, on my property.

They have a job to do.................not bothering me, I leave well enough alone.

Yotes in my book have two legitimate purposes . . .
1> Target practice
2> Being a bullet sponge

They may well leave you alone when there is one of them but get 3-4 or more in a pack and it's a whole new ballgame and they can and will be quite dangerous. Couple that with the fact they seem to breed like rabbits.

EDIT: Plus . . . Make no mistake . . . They are not dogs. Part of the K-9 family but definitely not dogs.

 

[smokeywolf]

I hear the yotes singin' at night, but have yet to see one here. When we take Tasha out after dark, for her potty walks, we always go in pairs; one watches Tasha and picks up her land mines if need be and one is the look-out for anything that might present a threat. Both have flashlights and both are always armed.

 

[creosote]

Song dogs have tried to call, entice my dog outside the safety of the fenced back yard a few times.
Lots of neighbors have livestock. I shoot the dogs, and get free eggs.

 

[Rick]

I hear the yotes singin' at night, but have yet to see one here. When we take Tasha out after dark, for her potty walks, we always go in pairs; one watches Tasha and picks up her land mines if need be and one is the look-out for anything that might present a threat. Both have flashlights and both are always armed.

Dang Smokey, your not in the deepest part of the amazon ya know. Be wiser instead of looking around with flashlights to just keep an eye on your dog, if there is anything suspicious anywhere near she will know it and she will let you know it.

 

[Ian]

Give 'am a break, Rick, they just moved out of suburban hell. At least they actually go outside after dark. I have out-of-state, hive-dwelling neighbors all around me and only the white trash and ones straight out of Mexico have figured out that that woods around here aren't all filled with Crips and T-rexes. The rest, particularly the Yoopers and 'Geow-zee transplant, perpetually huddle inside with the blinds shut and doors bolted expecting...I dunno, Egor?

 

[smokeywolf]

Rick, I've spent thousands of hours on horseback. A horseman who does not watch his horses ears and watch where his horse is looking, feel his horse's muscles tighten, shouldn't be out on the trail. Also, I worked with a K9 a time or two while in law enforcement. Your dog will nearly always detect a threat before you and sometimes you may not detect that threat at all.

We have no yard lights or street lights. Unless we have at least a bit of moon, it's dark as the inside of a pocket at night and if she alerts, you can't see which way she's looking. Without a flashlight you can still tell that she's picked up on something, but you won't know where that something is or how far away it might be.

 

[smokeywolf]

Love going out for our night time walks around the place. There's a lot more stars over Arkansas than there are over California.

I am adding security lighting, but only motion triggered, don't want any dusk-to-dawn lights spoiling our stargazing.

 

[Rick]

I hear the yotes singin' at night, but have yet to see one here. When we take Tasha out after dark, for her potty walks, we always go in pairs; one watches Tasha and picks up her land mines if need be and one is the look-out for anything that might present a threat. Both have flashlights and both are always armed.

I dunno Smokey, sounds like Armageddon is hiding in the woods and specifically waiting for and looking for . . . . YOU.

The odds of your running into anything worse than Bambi is pretty remote.

 

[Winelover]

The SP 101 weighs in at 26 ounces, with the short tube. That's 35% heavier than the 357 LCR, which weighs 17 ounces. Quite a bit heavier. I can notice the two ounce weight difference between the lighter S&W 342 (J-frame) versus the LCR.

 

[popper]

Correct, the frames on the LCR are the same but different material and weight.
'Except that the 45 in the arm would/could remove said limb, again if placed right.' Told that to my SS teacher when I was a kid. Funny look and 'nope'. WWII and Korea vet who used one! And a tommy gun.

 

[smokeywolf]

The odds of your running into anything worse than Bambi is pretty remote.

Yet you live in a more densely populated area than I do and you spotted a black panther strolling along your property line.

Rick, thanks to the flashlights we've seen quite a few of our 4 legged neighbors during our nighttime walks; deer, racoon, bunnies and kitty cats.

As for being armed during our nighttime walks, only someone who has never been on death's doorstep due to unlikely or unforeseeable events, does not take every available, no-cost in time or money, opportunity to improve their odds of a good and happy outcome.
I always look for opportunities to reduce my exposure to risk. Especially if it costs me no money and only a few seconds of time.

Didn't need to be a boyscout to learn to "be prepared".