A Carry Piece for the Mrs. and Son

fiver

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yep.
I live on the edge of town and see enough 4 legged critters I keep a shot gun by the front and back door cause I don't know which one of them i'll see.
and Jax is a big enough of a butthole to take a coyote on without stopping or even slowing down before going in face first.
 

Kevin Stenberg

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Smokey
We have yard lights. The dusk to dawn type. But they are on wireless switches. So when the dog goes out after dark, we just touch the button that activates the light we need. Then deactivate the light when the dog is done.
 

Rick

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I've got motion sensor LED lighting outside, open the door to take the dog out and it comes on, stays on for a few minutes after the last motion it senses. Quite handy.
 

smokeywolf

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Going to mount a motion activated flood on the front of the detached garage to light up all four garage doors and all three man doors. Don't want motion sensor lights in the front, as we like to admire the stars when we take Tasha out as late as midnight.

Also going to have to poll you fine folks for best trail cams. Would like to start with 2 and move them around to see what goes on in our woods at night.
 

Rick

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You can still have/use motion sensors in the front of the house. You have a front porch light right? That front porch light has a switch right. Install a motion sensor in place of the front porch light and leave the switch on so the motion sensor works. Then when you want to be out front without the light simply switch it off when you go out, when ya come back in just switch it back on and your back on motion sensor mode. That's what I do on my rear deck when out there during the summer nights.
 
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Ian

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That's what I did too on the front floods. Sometimes I want to go outside without the light getting triggered.
 

Rick

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Yep, not too complicated, just turn the dang thing off when ya don't want/need it. Other times if someone comes to the front of the house the light will come on. Just like it's supposed to.
 

JWFilips

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My Little lady has a very hard time racking "any" auto loading pistol! Can't understand it because she is an exceptional tennis player!
and has a grip of steel on a racket!
Got her a beautiful S&W ( 1950's) model 32 ....38 S&W ( not Special) She is deadly accurate with it but even though it is a small piece it is heavy! & Only carries it sometimes!
 

Rick

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John can probably edjumcate ya some on the cameras, he's looked into that a fair bit. All I've done about game cameras so far is think about it. :confused:
 

fiver

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the wahat thread is this again.
oh yeah.
JW the wife might need a little extension or small hook on the side of the frame to help her out.

RB the 375X10 would be okay.
having a little more sectional density than the 40 and a soft nose would really help the 375 versus the bigger bullets.
it would be super simple to design bullets for, and easy on pressure, while still having good enough velocities to insure the bullet done what it was supposed to every time all the time.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
375 x 10.......not familiar. I assume it is a 10mm case necked down like a 357 SIG to hold .375"/9.5mm bullets of some sort. I'll bet the die set is boutique-priced and unobtainium-scarce, too. Exactly what I'm looking for, IOW. Ay yi yi!
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
JW did she try the push/pull technique? Most women find it helpful in racking semi- autos.

Smokey, I use Cuddeback trail cameras. Based out of Wisconsin with excellent customer support. When you call there, you actually talk with an English speaking individual that will help you diagnose any issues.

Most all trail cameras are made in China and will eventually have problems and fail, over time. If you register your camera on their site, you get and extra year warranty. After the warranty expires, they give you reduced cost on repairs. I need to send one back, after the Holiday's. It stopped taking night pictures. Works fine in the daylight and even at dawn and dusk.

Reconyx, makes the best trail camera but they are priced accordingly. USA made!

 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
not 35,,, 37 as in 375.
a shortened to 38 special length, 375 cal throwing 200grs at like 1000 fps.


Whoop! My bad. The 38 Spec "Super Police" load was a 200 gr a couple hundred feet slower than that. The 41 Mag police load was in your ball park. The 40S+W 200gr is near there.. Recoil with a load like that is the issue in police work. The days where all cops were manly he men towering over 6 feet tall is gone. Now the young PO might be 5'3" tall, female (maybe) and have tiny hands to match. That's why the 9mm is popular if you ask me. You ought to see those folks try to handle a 12ga with buck and slugs. That why they were coming out with reduced recoil shotgun loads just as I was getting out.

Those that want to pack around the house, have at it. To each their own. At this point in my life I already have a cell phone and a leatherman hanging off my belt, a chap stick, ear plugs and swiss army knife in a pocket and still need suspenders. Sticking a gun in my pocket or hanging it off my belt is just more weight and something else to catch on EVERYTHING and to get in the way when I'm on my back/side working under a sink/tractor/truck. We have Eastern coyotes that can weigh over 60 lbs, have enough wolf DNA that they pack hunt and they breed like rabbits. Black bear, feral dogs and cats, meth heads and general trash abound. What I need is a skyhook that follows me around and carries a couple handguns, a 22, 22-250 and 308, a 12 ga riot gun and a 410 for pigeons. Soon as I find one I'll be set.
 
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Winelover

North Central Arkansas
:headscratch: The SP 101 just might interest me.................if they chambered it in 44 Special and offered it in a hammerless or shrouded version. Charter Arms has that market cornered. Ruger and S&W are just plain Stuck on Stupid.
 

Idaholewis

Active Member
They tried that some years back with the 9mm Para and 9mm Federal.


Someone mentioned the 45ACP and deer. I put down I don't know how many deer over a 20 plus year career in LE. The 357 was great, but I put 13 rounds into one doe one night. Nothing gives a one shot DRT kill every single time. The 38 Sec/9mm Gold dot +p+ were about on par, with the vaunted 9mm "FBI subsonic load" being nearly useless. I on'y shot a few deer with the 45GAP. They worked fine, but anything can fail.

That was me that mentioned .45ACP and Deer. That was coming from a Deputy friend of mine and HIS Experience dispatching Wounded Deer.

This same Deputy friend Shot a Charging Rottweiler in Front of the Barber Shop in Town, it was coming at him HARD, Just on the edge of Lunging to get him (my brother was one of the people there, in the Barber Shop and Witnessed it Happen) the Dog had Bit People entering the Barber Shop That Morning so they called the Police, The Deputy put 2 or 3 QUICK .45 ACP Rounds in The Dog from his Duty Pistol, The 1st Obviously a Frontal Shot, The Dog Rolled, SQUALLING like Mad, Got to his Feet and Staggered Home where it Stayed on the Porch til the Owner could get home From Work, the Dog was then Put Down, The Owner was Fined. Shot Placement? No idea? I wasn’t there. I know this Deputy had NO LOVE for the .45 ACP
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I'd say it depends on just where the dog was hit and with what kind of bullet. Just because it's a 45 doesn't mean it should be a one shot DRT kill. You have to hit the central nervous system to get that. The 357 or even a load of buckshot might have given the same results as the 45. The NYSP (my former employer) went to the 45GAP and then the 45ACP because we had a Trooper put a mess of 9mm rounds into a BG who then proceeded to kill the Trooper. Results with the 45's have been uniformly good. You can't judge any load based on one anecdotal report. There have been lots of one shot stops with the 22 LR, 25 Auto, etc. where just getting shot at all took all the fight out of the BG. Those anecdotal reports don't mean the 22LR is a great carry gun. OTOH, a person with a clip full of 22LR in, say, a Ruger Mk1 that knows how to use it is going to do lots better than a guy with a 500 Mag that misses 6 times.....
 

Idaholewis

Active Member
Shot placement is UNDOUBTEDLY the key to success regardless the Caliber. That said, Some Calibers simply do better when a less than perfect Shot has been made. Nobody is perfect, Throw in some Stress from a bad situation unfolding, A shot that is less than ideal is not an uncommon occurrence

I have hunted my entire life, I have harvested more Deer than i can Remember, Numerous Elk, And Bear. In that time i have seen a LOT Happen. It is not uncommon to see Deer Jump/Kick, and RUN like the Wind for up to 100 Yards after being Shot Through the Lungs with a 180 Grain Bullet Traveling at 3,000 FPS MV From a .300 Winchester Magnum, The Deer is Dead, But don’t always go Down right there, In fact they RARELY do. I have seen more DRT Stuff with Slower Moving Projectiles Than Souped up Hotrods. A Bullet that Doesn’t always Exit the Body, one that DUMPS ALL of it’s Energy inside the Body is a pretty impressive Sight. These Muzzleloaders i shoot are a Great Example of that.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
A female friend I've known since high school used to carry a POS .22lr revolver of some type (RG I think). It was the type of gun people here would scorn for all sorts of reasons. A group of us would go out to an old rock quarry to shoot. I witnessed on numerous occasions her point shooting at 6-7 steps and putting all 6 rounds in a group the size of a belt buckle at approximately navel height. Now we all know a .22lr is not a good self defense gun, it lacks stopping power, etc, etc. So tell me, which one of you wants to put the bum rush on somebody who can perforate your guts with a half dozen dirty little lead HPs before you can take two steps? The line forms on the right...
 

Idaholewis

Active Member
A .22 Magnum is a SERIOUS BAD DUDE!! My Dad Butchered Professionally for Years, A Little Winchester Model 94 XTR in .22 Magnum is ALL he used on Beef and Hogs, Pretty impressive sight to See a 1,000 Pound Animal DROP like a Sack of Taters from a little 40 Grain Bullet Between The Running lights.

The only time i Remember him using anything else was on a HUGE OLD Buffalo Bull, That things Head was Larger than the Front of my Toyota Pickup, He lined up on him with a Hillside Backstop and Shot Him Through the Side of the Noggin with his 300 Win Mag for insurance. Dad said “My Little .22 Magnum would Probably have done it, But no reason to Chance it” It’s NOT the size of the Dog in the Fight, it’s the size of the Fight in the Dog
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