A Carry Piece for the Mrs. and Son

[Cherokee]

what this country needs is a good 37 caliber semi auto round, with a rimmed twin for the revolver crowd.

Have you looked at the Super 38 ? Never mind, you said 37 Cal., why not 40 ?

 

[popper]

40sw is same fps with 200gr as 45acp. 10mm gives more. Tx heartshot `150#pig ran 150yds or so before quitting. On 3 legs.

 

[JWFilips]

I have hunted my entire life, I have harvested more Deer than i can Remember, Numerous Elk, And Bear. In that time i have seen a LOT Happen. It is not uncommon to see Deer Jump/Kick, and RUN like the Wind for up to 100 Yards after being Shot Through the Lungs with a 180 Grain Bullet Traveling at 3,000 FPS MV From a .300 Winchester Magnum, The Deer is Dead, But don’t always go Down right there, In fact they RARELY do. I have seen more DRT Stuff with Slower Moving Projectiles Than Souped up Hotrods. A Bullet that Doesn’t always Exit the Body, one that DUMPS ALL of it’s Energy inside the Body is a pretty impressive Sight. These Muzzleloaders i shoot are a Great Example of that.

Idaholewis....... You are correct there!
In my part of Pennsylvania I started hunting at Age 11 (1964) My brothers and I along with some of their friends hunted a place called Dutch Mountain. It was a mass of laurel thickets. average shot was about 20 -30 yards. My brothers used the 300 savage, I my 35 Remington
Those guns never failed to bring home meat ....but my brothers friends were so over gunned with their 7 mm Rem Mag and their 300 Win Mags they shot at plenty of deer at these short distances but never brought any of them home! They never got it!
I have yet to loose a deer to a well placed .50, .54, or .62 round ball with the minimum of 2F black powder from a flintlock!
up to 80 yards.

In the 18th Century the Eastern "Longhunters" ( paid food providers for a settlement) judged their powder loads by penetration of a deer....the ball should go through most of the deer but stick in the hide on the opposite side ( to recover the lead , a valuable commodity)
Jim

 

[Bret4207]

I think you can use too much gun. But for me it's the nutjob behind the trigger that's the problem, not so much the caliber or cartridge. I've said for quite some time that if our hunters were limited to things like 6.5x55, 257 Robts, 7x57, 308, 30-06, we'd have a lot more HUNTERS, a lot less hail Mary shooting and way less fat coyotes.

 

[Idaholewis]

I think you can use too much gun. But for me it's the nutjob behind the trigger that's the problem, not so much the caliber or cartridge. I've said for quite some time that if our hunters were limited to things like 6.5x55, 257 Robts, 7x57, 308, 30-06, we'd have a lot more HUNTERS, a lot less hail Mary shooting and way less fat coyotes.

I couldn’t agree more!! Long Range TARGET Shooting is a PASSION of mine, I live and love to do it, But i do it On TARGETS ONLY. You won’t find anyone more against Long Range “Hunting” than myself, I am DEAD AGAINST it (My Stance on this Subject can be found anywhere i post) We as Hunters owe it to the Animals we Pursue to Take them as Cleanly, and Humanely as POSSIBLE. Taking Long Range Crack Shots at Game Animals is unethical, and Irresponsible. I wish there was a Law in place against it, If you are caught doing it you automatically lose your Privilege to Hunt for LIFE.

 

[Rick]

Oh come on now Lewis, why all the beating around the bush? How do you really feel about it?

 

[Rally]

For a light carry I have a .38 Lcr. Wife can shoot it if need be, but our house guns are shot guns. We know where they are with the lights off. I believe strongly that whatever you choose, you or she should be capable and familiar. If you or she are scared of your choice your not going to shoot nor carry it often.
like Rick, we have spot lights on motion detectors, so that we can walk from our house, to the shop or outdoor wood stove without flipping any switches. Also detects bears or a loose dog around our buildings. Five dogs in kennels tell us when anything/anybody is around before the detectors.

 

[smokeywolf]

Anybody have any experience with or exposure to a Springfield EMP in 40 S&W?

 

[smokeywolf]

We're on the same page with regard to shooting a curious K9. Pretty sure nearly everyone on this site knows that our family are dog lovers to the extreme.

Tasha's breakfast this morning.
Served out on the deck.

The tray helps reduce having to sanitize the floor after she pulls the raw chicken feet off the plate and sniffs them before crunching them up.

 

[freebullet]

Anybody have any experience with or exposure to a Springfield EMP in 40 S&W?

No, but a young lady I know used the 9mm emp for the 4 day defensive handgun course at front sight. 650+ rounds in 4 days, the gun & young lady did well. On par or better than most. She didn't need the band aids as the hipoint shooter did.

 

[Winelover]

EMP looks like a nice pistol for those that like the 1911 platform. At least, it has an ambi safety. Myself, I would look at their new Hellcat.

Hellcat® Micro-Compact Handguns - Springfield Armory

www.springfield-armory.com

 

[Hawk]

I carry Glock Model 27s and model 22s, in .40 S&W.
The wife and daughter are not as profecient and carries a S&W Model 60 with 2" barrel in
.38 Spl.
If it doesn't go bang, just pull the trigger again. No jams to clear, no safties to fool with.

 

[KeithB]

My reason for carrying a revolver instead of an auto. Only one decision/action to take under stress. Pull the trigger or don't pull the trigger. No condition so-and-so, no safety to fumble with and require grip shifting, no clearing drills for stovepipes and jams, just make the choice to shoot or not shoot.

 

[Winelover]

You nailed it Kieth. However, most semis designed for carry are DAO and have a manual safety.............. not counting the trigger ones because their automatic. Some don't have slide releases, either..............those are thinner than a revolver and easier to conceal.

 

[KeithB]

No platform is perfect, all have their +/- features. Your points are well taken - in my personal case, I'm lumpy enough that hiding a J frame isn't all that hard. I guess the deciding factor for me comes down to simplicity, reliability and ammo versatility/tolerance. But my needs and evaluation criteria are unique to me and I certainly understand other folks are just as unique in their circumstances, skill levels, legal environment, etc.

 

[Winelover]

Ninety percent of the time, I'm carrying a revolver.

 

[462]

Different strokes for different folks, as it should be.

After weighing the many options, I carry a Glock 27. It performed flawlessly at Front Sight.

 

[KeithB]

Carry what you have confidence in.

 

[JonB]

My reason for carrying a revolver instead of an auto. Only one decision/action to take under stress. Pull the trigger or don't pull the trigger. No condition so-and-so, no safety to fumble with and require grip shifting, no clearing drills for stovepipes and jams, just make the choice to shoot or not shoot.

I couldn't say it better (in regards to my personal use).

 

[Glaciers]

My vote for the SP 101, I feel the need for the 357 as a minimum where I live, but like the option of using 38's as well. The SP 101 I use sports a 3" barrel, which just fits nicely in my back pocket with just a small portion of the grip sticking out. We also have a Lady Smith 2" in 357 which slides all of the way into the pocket. I like the Ruger more because of the additional weigh for the 357 cartridge.

Fortunately I have only needed a gun for two legged critters, and that only twice. Once a individual was coming through the door of the drive up motel we were staying at in Moab Utah. He changed his mind when I cocked my revolver. Makes a unmistakable sound. I guess racking the slide would catch your attention as well. Fortunately I've never had to pull the trigger, hope I never do.

I just can't warm up to slab sided guns. Just don't feel right. Revolvers, as others have stated are simple, and simple is good when and if the need arises.