Any Guy Loverin fans out there ?

harrympope

Active Member
I have the noe 266469 on and cast of range scrap at .270 it shoots decent at 60 yards from my '96.groups at 1" are common and good nuff for plinking.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I shot a few in 7mm , I think that NOE 270-140 is in my stash .
The 7×57 didn't shoot anything very well and Guy's were the worst examples . I didn't get back past the Lee 130 in the 7×6.8 , not a true example but of the type . The NOE example won't fit in the WM yet but it's fun to shoot with a paper patched 260-120 over 15 gr of Unique . Very flat shooting and quiet actually ....... No idea how fast it's going .
Back on track I still have a couple 100 from the 7mm request for assorted bullets before buying a mould . I have a 7×57 in a brand new barrel so maybe they will shoot there .
 

CZ93X62

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One other Loverin bullet I have made use of slipped my mind entirely--#366408. This one is a plain-base design that someone in 2002 sent me samples of right after I bought the 9.3 x 62/CZ-550. The bullets shot VERY well at 1250-1400 FPS; if I could find a mould of this pattern I would buy it at any fair price. That thick base band design element is a winner for me, whether the bullet is meant for handgun or rifle. With the "discovery" of the 9.3 x 62 by American shooters, I am a little surprised that Lyman hasn't re-intro'ed the design.
 

Sendaro

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I shoot the Loverin design bullet 311467 GC (approx. 185 grains) in my 30-30 CPA over 15.5 grains of 2400. I believe that the speed is about 1550 fps. They are sized .310 and lubed with NOE 50/50. This load has proved to be accurate is my CPA as well as my 1903-A3. I have shot this load successfully to 500 yards. The 30-06 likes 17.8 grains of 2400. I do plan continue testing with this bullet in the 30-06 with increased powder charges till the accuracy starts to deteriorate.
 

Charles Graff

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I have been shooting the various Loverin 30 cal designs for many years. They were really modern versions of the old Pope multi-band bullets scaled down. When I tried sizing down the top two bands to lightly engrave the lands and ride the bore, these things would really shoot and could be seated out to not have their feet in the fire. This is the way I designed 311407 Modified and I still shoot lots and lots of them.
 

CZ93X62

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I have been shooting the various Loverin 30 cal designs for many years. They were really modern versions of the old Pope multi-band bullets scaled down. When I tried sizing down the top two bands to lightly engrave the lands and ride the bore, these things would really shoot and could be seated out to not have their feet in the fire. This is the way I designed 311407 Modified and I still shoot lots and lots of them.

That is a neat trick, Charles. I might have to try that with the front bands of the #266469 in the Ruger 77R in 6.5 x 55 Swede. Its feet are in the fire just a bit, though they do shoot pretty well. L/G is a true .256" x .264", and I have both .258" and .260" H&I dies on hand. Maybe Bruce Frechette can carve out a .256" H&I die if the need arises, too.
 

harrympope

Active Member
Charles most of the early "proper" loverin bullet molds i own have the first two bands smaller.the later versions are cylindrical and don't generally shoot as well
 

Charles Graff

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Charles most of the early "proper" loverin bullet molds i own have the first two bands smaller.the later versions are cylindrical and don't generally shoot as well

Harry, my early 60's 311467 has the top three bands smaller than the body, but each of the top bands are slightly larger from the one above it. They go from .303 to .307 if I remember correctly. As such none of them would enter barrel groove of a standard .308 30-06 barrel. The bullets had to be seated deep with it's feet in the fire. I had Buckshot make me a .302 nose sizing die and I sized the top two bands to that diameter. The group size was cut by 2/3rds with the same bullet and powder charges. With the stop two bands lightly engraving on the lands and the base out of the fire, it is a winning combination.
 

Charles Graff

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Some years back, when I designed 311407 Mod, a fellow by the name of Bobby Kell volunteered to furnish the drawings I sent to Lee for the first run of these molds. So, I need to acknowledge that he did in fact take my idea and reduce it to paper. I have no mechanical drawing skills either on paper or by computor program. Thank you Mr. Kell.
 

quicksylver

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Ben I love Loverins,but not really sure why'course I still chase women,but don't rightly know exactly why ,especially since some I managed to catch turned out to be more of a problem than the expended energy was worth,as for the bullets i think my draw to them is the connection to the past , they are just plain "cool".. I have the Noe and Lyman versions of the 466 which are tack divers in my 700 Rem.308 and 1917 US Enfield, a four cavity Ideal 467,shoots lights out in one of my Winchester 94 30/30's I also have the NOE 407 Mod and original Ideal 407s, still working on finding some great loads for them,Dan EXCELLENT WORK ON THAT MOLD...BTW
 

mattw

Active Member
Just got my hands on a modified 311466. I normally do not seek out single cavity or modified moulds. Modified moulds never seem to work out for me, either they mod was done poorly or something else was wrong that someone tired to fix. I just could not pass this one up, it looked well done and the mod made a lot of sense. The mod was extremely well executed by someone who did know what they were doing. She now drops 173-174 grain bullets that are very concentric and it is the right age mould that the upper rings taper to a smaller diameter. As cast the nose is .303, with PC it is .305. I think this will make a very good '06 or 30-30 bullet. I could not shoot my Loverin's in the 30-30 before as all of my examples are almost pointed round noses as cast.

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CZ93X62

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OK, time for an update--and a revision or three.

I totally forgot that I have had a Lyman #245496 since about the Clinton Administration. It shoots almost as well as the RCBS 243-95-SP in the several 243s that have passed through my hands over the years. Both of those are GREAT rat-whackers atop 12.0-14.0 grains of 2400. I have been minus a 243 for close to 5 years now, and that needs to be remedied. One of the 22-250s can go down the road to make room in the safe; I'll just thief its scope and consign the rifle somewhere.

Since my last bloviations in this thread, I have come across two more Loverin Lymans--a 2-cylinder #311467 and my long-sought #366408. Thanks go to Don (obssd58) for directing both my way. I also did Tale Of The Tape on my newer-series #266469--the front bands might be almost .001" smaller than the rear bands. I do have .260" and .258" H&I dies, so anything is possible. The bullets shoot well enough sized at .265"/true that I might just Leave Well Enough Alone.
 
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JWFilips

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Well Ben
Somewhere over the years I was gifted a nice 467! One cavity HP'd ( Wink Wink!):rolleyes:
Both the solid and HP are excellent shooters in my Savage 340! The HP does have the accuracy edge!
I even made some more deeper pins for it!
Jim
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
I love them and have them in 6.5, 7mm, 30 cal and 8mm but I'm self-inflicting myself with the various Ideal/Lyman spirepoint designs just because those Loverins are so good that I was able to easily get a good and accurate load for each of those bullets with cartridges in those caliber. Spirepoints are my hardest challenge but I'll get there with all the background and experiments already detailed here on this forum.

Bruce
 
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Walks

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Yep, got 2.

A #311467 - 1cav & # 287405 - 2cav. Both with GC intact.
I usually dipper cast them out of straight Linotype, set the GC's on My Lyman Lube-Sizer just enough to crimp them on. TL w/ 45-45-10 and shoot them over 10-12grs of Unique.
Spanish Mauser will shoot one hole groups all day long. At least it used to when I could still see good enough.
H&R in .30-30, seat out as far as I can, 1 1/2" at 50yrds.
All I need for paper punching.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Always appreciated them for the accuracy claims. I have a couple
Molds. But I only use the 458 much at all.

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Is this a true Louvern style?

CW
 

Boommeup

Member
Yes! According to lyman’s number three book (457121). Don’t have that one but, I do have four others in 457. With a total of seventeen altogether! How can you go wrong?
 

Ben

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Staff member
Well Ben
Somewhere over the years I was gifted a nice 467! One cavity HP'd ( Wink Wink!):rolleyes:
Both the solid and HP are excellent shooters in my Savage 340! The HP does have the accuracy edge!
I even made some more deeper pins for it!
Jim

Very glad you are enjoying that mould.

Best,
Ben