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Chandler
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I always want guns in calibers I don't have but I also have a wife so... I've read some of his articles in the gun rags and they are good stuff. I never read his book. I like reloading and like using my own experience with powders but there is always something to learn. There is always someone out there that gets it right and shares it. I'm putting his books on my wish list. When I bought my Contender pistol around '80, he had the factory chamber his wildcats. Never bought one of those barrels and now the T/C is a carbine with 6.8 SPC barrel on it. New territory to find a cast load for.
RBHarter
West Central AR
I feel obligated to save you a bunch of powder in that 6.8 .
21-24 gr H322
FC case
CCI 450 or #41
NOE 279-124 @ 130 gr .280" .
Well in a 1-11" ARP 5R 20" barrel anyway .
H4198 is better with it's longer flatter curve .
Chandler
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Thanks RB! I have some H322 on the shelf and haven't tried it yet. I tried both Varget and Benchmark and didn't really think they were best. My mold is a Lee C277-125R. I'll look into that NOE mould. edited to fix RP to RB. Dang trifocals anyway.
Thanks RB! I have some H322 on the shelf and haven't tried it yet. I tried both Varget and Benchmark and didn't really think they were best. My mold is a Lee C277-125R. I'll look into that NOE mould. edited to fix RP to RB. Dang trifocals anyway.
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Don't really spend too much effort on the mould.... usually snag a Lee in the size/style that suits the intention of the rifle. Which is pretty much always hunting application.
Work on case fit,throat fit...... powder and load intensity. Then pay real close attention to how well each of these play out over the first couple firings. Play with seating depth.... study the fired case.How does the neck look? Getting a nice blowback line on case neck? Then change amt of powder...... go back through all the case checks.
Accuracy for me,isn't going to come if the case/chamber and bullet/throat relationship isn't gauldang near perfect. I'll manipulate the mould through alloy,casting techniques, or swaging so it's down the list a bit. Lube is a non issue. And powder ain't much but a means to an end. I like using well known,sort of plain Jane powders. The load's intensity level is more important than a slight change in burn rate...... modern powders are purty dang forgiving. 4198,Varget,4895,4350 cover an awful lot of loads.
Work on case fit,throat fit...... powder and load intensity. Then pay real close attention to how well each of these play out over the first couple firings. Play with seating depth.... study the fired case.How does the neck look? Getting a nice blowback line on case neck? Then change amt of powder...... go back through all the case checks.
Accuracy for me,isn't going to come if the case/chamber and bullet/throat relationship isn't gauldang near perfect. I'll manipulate the mould through alloy,casting techniques, or swaging so it's down the list a bit. Lube is a non issue. And powder ain't much but a means to an end. I like using well known,sort of plain Jane powders. The load's intensity level is more important than a slight change in burn rate...... modern powders are purty dang forgiving. 4198,Varget,4895,4350 cover an awful lot of loads.
CZ93X62
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Ken Waters' Pet Loads is a wealth of information, for certain. I have managed to survive unscathed without Quickload for a good long time, but I am not sure for just how much longer I want to labor in the darkness of its absence. SWMBO is asking what I want for Christmas this year that IS NOT made of ordnance steel and walnut; maybe this will fill the bill.
What to do with the new firearm or caliber......I do a cart-load of research beforehand, to include the subjective impressions of actual users that I can contact at sites like this. All you need to do is step away from this site for a while, and you will see an immediate and egregious loss of information and experience that a member can draw upon from folks that live and work in the real world of firearms hobbycrafting, as opposed to the posers and mall ninjas that infest gunrags and some online communities.
What to do with the new firearm or caliber......I do a cart-load of research beforehand, to include the subjective impressions of actual users that I can contact at sites like this. All you need to do is step away from this site for a while, and you will see an immediate and egregious loss of information and experience that a member can draw upon from folks that live and work in the real world of firearms hobbycrafting, as opposed to the posers and mall ninjas that infest gunrags and some online communities.
As many here felt with the absence of your wealth of experience for a time. We are mighty glad to see you return sharing knowledge. This forum is a better place with you here.
It's just that dang desert thing I don't understand. Was depressing just to drive through it. Oh well, to each their own as the saying goes.
CZ93X62
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Rick--
That is very kind of you to say, sir. Coming from someone I know and respect, that means a great deal to me. MANY THANKS!
"Depressing" for me is cities, congested highways, crowded buildings, drywall death traps on Mossy Brook Circle. To paraphrase Marie, who also loves the desert--"In the desert, you can see fools coming from a long way off. With any luck at all, they won't survive to reach you."
Neither she nor I are anti-social per se, but both of us worked for a long time in very intense social-contact venues throughout our careers, and in retirement we DO NOT seek out the company of other people with frequency. Both of our families have lived in the Inland Empire for over 100 years, which is a sage scrub environment in its pre-pavement condition. Sage scrub is desert minus summer microburst thunderstorms. Desert climates suit us both very well--Marie utterly HATES being cold, and is not shy about sharing that sentiment. I don't mind heat, and have sense enough to get out of the sun when the temps range past 110* F. I don't mind cold and snow, either. Central NV would be well-nigh perfect for me; Marie would opt for Tucson as her "ideal". Yuma has the added benefits of being 3 hours from ocean fishing in San Diego, and hot enough in summer to drive out the snowbirds for 5-6 months of the year. Yuma has some AWESOME gun shops as well--Sprague's gets a whole lot of my disposable income these days.
That is very kind of you to say, sir. Coming from someone I know and respect, that means a great deal to me. MANY THANKS!
"Depressing" for me is cities, congested highways, crowded buildings, drywall death traps on Mossy Brook Circle. To paraphrase Marie, who also loves the desert--"In the desert, you can see fools coming from a long way off. With any luck at all, they won't survive to reach you."
Neither she nor I are anti-social per se, but both of us worked for a long time in very intense social-contact venues throughout our careers, and in retirement we DO NOT seek out the company of other people with frequency. Both of our families have lived in the Inland Empire for over 100 years, which is a sage scrub environment in its pre-pavement condition. Sage scrub is desert minus summer microburst thunderstorms. Desert climates suit us both very well--Marie utterly HATES being cold, and is not shy about sharing that sentiment. I don't mind heat, and have sense enough to get out of the sun when the temps range past 110* F. I don't mind cold and snow, either. Central NV would be well-nigh perfect for me; Marie would opt for Tucson as her "ideal". Yuma has the added benefits of being 3 hours from ocean fishing in San Diego, and hot enough in summer to drive out the snowbirds for 5-6 months of the year. Yuma has some AWESOME gun shops as well--Sprague's gets a whole lot of my disposable income these days.
I appreciate cities actually, well as long as I'm not in one anyway. Cities provide a very useful purpose, can you imagine if the hoards all left the cities and came . . . HERE? 
Cities are a great place to warehouse all those people. When I retired I got out of the sewer with all due haste, bought an acre of oak trees a couple of miles outside of a town of 12,000. Not a freeway within a couple of hours drive from here. Longer drive than that to get to any sort of major airport. A traffic jam here is three cars at a four way stop at the same time. Never has the thermometer ever read 110 degrees A bit chilly right now but another chunk of oak in the fireplace will solve that.
Gotta agree though the concrete jungle is more depressing than even the desert.
Cities are a great place to warehouse all those people. When I retired I got out of the sewer with all due haste, bought an acre of oak trees a couple of miles outside of a town of 12,000. Not a freeway within a couple of hours drive from here. Longer drive than that to get to any sort of major airport. A traffic jam here is three cars at a four way stop at the same time. Never has the thermometer ever read 110 degrees A bit chilly right now but another chunk of oak in the fireplace will solve that.Gotta agree though the concrete jungle is more depressing than even the desert.