Black PC and dry tumble

Tomme boy

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@Reloader762 how much did you have to seat that mosin bullet deeper with the PC? I tried some with HF red and had to really sink them in to chamber compared to a regular lubed one. I need to start loading again as I am getting low on ammo for my mosin. I don't like the red but that clear looks great!
 

Reloader762

Active Member
@Reloader762 how much did you have to seat that mosin bullet deeper with the PC? I tried some with HF red and had to really sink them in to chamber compared to a regular lubed one. I need to start loading again as I am getting low on ammo for my mosin. I don't like the red but that clear looks great!
Actually none at all with any of the bullet I'm using in my two mosin rifles. In the M44 I use the Lee 160 gr. .312" RN and the Lee .312" 185 gr. RN and crimp both in the provided crimp groove and get excellent accuracy. In the M91/30 I do the same with both bullets as well although with the Lee 185 gr.RN I can seat the bullet out longer all the way down to the last lube groove an still never touch the leads in that rifle. With the Accurate .314" 215B gr. FN bullet when I did a test fit I could seat the bullet just below the crimp groove of the bullet but chose to just use the provided crimp groove and it shot very accurately. The 215B FN bullet will not work in my M44 at all it's just to long for that rifles chamber.

The only issues I have had with PC affecting seating depth is in my 9 mm and 45 ACP depending on the bullet style such as a RN bullet but I don't have to seat the bullets much deeper to get them to work and I don't shoot max loads in those type bullets so it hasn't been a problem. TC or SWC style bullets in those two handgun calibers don't require me to adjust the seating depth at all due to the slightly increased dia. caused by the powder coating.
 
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fiver

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Tomme you might want to look at the NOE nose sizers.
I have come pretty close to picking up an old 4500 just so I could use it for that.
 

Tomme boy

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@fiver the bullet I use in my mosin is the 215b he mentions. It is another one of my designs. I made it to shoot lubed. It has fit perfect in about every Mosin I have heard of if you seat it at the crimp grove. That was the way I designed it to be. It was made for one of my Mosin sniper rifles. I hand picked it at RGuns when they imported the real deal ones. It had been shot very little with hardly any wear in the barrel. It was a 43 Tula.

Right now I have a 1944 Izhevsk 91/30 that has a even better barrel on it. I went through about 100 of these when I had my FFL. I kept this one as it looked actually new. You could see the reamer marks in the throat. This is the only .30cal I have now. That was why the ? about powder coat for the 215b. I am pretty sure I over applied it with the HF red. I had to seat it really deep. The pic of the 215b rl762 showed looked like it was not even coated. If the clear can be used really thin I might order some.
 

fiver

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they all add about .001 of a coat.

the only way I have been able to apply it any thinner is to really bump the tin content of the bullet.
this won't let as much powder stick no matter how hard you shake or swirl and the coat comes out about 1/2 a thou thick.
 

Reloader762

Active Member
Back when I first started powder coating I use HF Red like many others did, it sprays on very thin but it's pretty chunky using the TL process at least that was my experience it's also an epoxy based resin powder and is very hard. I've heard from several that it along with the HF Yellow has been discontinued an is no longer available.

The Super Durable Clear that Smokes sells leaves a very thin coat. I add 1/2 tsp. of powder to about 50 of those 215B bullet in a pint size #5 Great Value Yogurt container that fill about 1" deep in black air soft BB's or Pony Beads. The powder gives a nice fine coat.

Some Lee 185 gr. RN I coated with the clear.
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Pistolero

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PC making the mainstream, it would seem. The first I have seen with .22 LR bullets.


Cool ammo.

And separately, too.


This ought to keep those suppressors clean.
 
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Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Patriot colors are kinda OK, just that mix for a special case. And I didn't say I really wanted any.
Just an interesting marketing ploy.

But the main point was that PC is showing up in .22 LR, regardless of colors. If there were a display
of PC ammo, and they had red, white, yellow, green, blue and gray or black. I'd buy the gray or black
for certain.

Bill
 
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Ian

Notorious member
Yes, like the ZombieMax ammo, excellent marketing tactic and it sold like hotcakes.

The real outstanding part is the standard velocity for suppression, lead fouling being a real problem to the point that I don't even shoot rimfire through my cans.....until maybe now.
 

Pistolero

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Yeah, that was what I was thinking....subsonic, PC bullets.... Gee, what market could they be going for?

Seemed pretty obvious.
 

Ian

Notorious member
So you're not gonna try picking and standing them up on a non-stick foil-covered plate for your first go? :sigh:

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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Just shake, dump, and bake Bill.

This standing them all up stuff if too much work! If you decide to load for rifles at HV then it might make a difference.

Resist the urge to stand them up! Lazy bullets work, let them lie down and rest.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
If I have to stand them up and not dump them all over while sliding into the toaster oven.....I will NEVER do
powder coating. I will shake, dump and bake and see what happens.

No urge to resist, Brad....NONE.

Bill
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
I have no detectable OCD. I do insist on getting the correct answer to an engineering challenge.:)

But, excessive neatness is WAY not my thing. My workshop is proof. :rolleyes:

Hopeless slob is way closer. :embarrassed:
 
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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Bet I have you beat on that one Bill. Flat surfaces are my biggest problem, they always collect “stuff”.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I have a way of turning out laboriously detailed and precise work in the midst of total chaos an heaps of clutter. Embarrassing but sadly true and try as I might my enthusiasm for a multitude of simultaneous projects has always precluded any organization or cleaning efforts. My shop hasn't been organized since I built it ten years ago and turned the previous cluttered barn into a house. The house is pretty decent only due to continuous occupation by a female.