BLL ( Ben's Liquid Lube )
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At this point in my life ( age 70 ) , I have zero experience with powder coat.
It just might stay like that................
The type of cast bullet shooting I'm doing now works well with conventional lubes.
Ben
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Mitty38
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I had read of others doing it. I have 2 loads I powder coat. So I was just a bit curious. I guess the only way to know is to try the next time I load up some.
I had a pan lube 158 grain SWC for the . 357 I run in the 38special+ p range. It gave me good groups with no leading. But made a mess of the gun, not leading, but lube spatter and such. I just loaded some up that I had left, with BLL over the pan lube bullet, gun stays a lot cleaner and although I have not got out the calipers it seams like the groups have tightened up a bit.
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Joshua
Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I think that I will have to buy a jug of this Lundmark floor wax. I want to try some. I don’t need it though. I have one and a half tins of Johnson’s paste wax and almost two full jugs of White Label Xlox. I have been very happy with how the 45/45/10 has worked for me.
Funny story about the Xlox. I was buying a hundred pounds of lead from a man locally. As I was loading up the lead the seller pulls out this jug of Xlox and asks me if I know what it is. I tell him it’s great stuff. He then adds it to the deal free of charge.
I can’t see switching to powder coating for 45 acp, 38 special, or my “low node” 30 caliber rifle loads.
I am however very seriously thinking about starting to powder coat for 40 s&w and 30 cal rifle loads over 1800 FPS.
Josh
Funny story about the Xlox. I was buying a hundred pounds of lead from a man locally. As I was loading up the lead the seller pulls out this jug of Xlox and asks me if I know what it is. I tell him it’s great stuff. He then adds it to the deal free of charge.
I can’t see switching to powder coating for 45 acp, 38 special, or my “low node” 30 caliber rifle loads.
I am however very seriously thinking about starting to powder coat for 40 s&w and 30 cal rifle loads over 1800 FPS.
Josh
Ian
Notorious member
Josh, I would probably use BLL (original, I stocked up on the no-buff Johnson's before it disappeared) on almost all my pistol bullets except I got involved with suppressors a few years ago. Then I discovered what it's like to shoot cast bullets with jacketed levels of smoke, now I just PC everything. What I REALLY wish I could do was powder-coat .22 rimfire.
As to BLL over PC, I only tried it once and while not dismal it would throw the first couple of shots and added unnecessary smoke to a system which works just fine without it. I figured at some point in pushing the velocity of PC'd rifle bullets way up I'd start to need a lube of sime sort but so far I've gone over 2900 fps with heavy .22 bullets and not needed any extra lube yet even shooting rapidly and on hot days with many rounds down the barrel between cleanings.
As to BLL over PC, I only tried it once and while not dismal it would throw the first couple of shots and added unnecessary smoke to a system which works just fine without it. I figured at some point in pushing the velocity of PC'd rifle bullets way up I'd start to need a lube of sime sort but so far I've gone over 2900 fps with heavy .22 bullets and not needed any extra lube yet even shooting rapidly and on hot days with many rounds down the barrel between cleanings.
i used a single light coat of BLL on some BO (RD 170gr PB) PCd cast that were large and hard to size without scraping PC off & deforming bullets. Found it worked very well. Left the bore nice and shiny. Did some for the RD 185 GC PCd in 30/30 with 16gr 2400 - good results.
Mistakenly loaded some 145gr GC way too hot for BO but results were still good, didn't chrony but figured 2400+ fps (I did chrony 1 1/2 gr less and got 2100 - some just PC & some BLL). All had 2 coats BLL only. Posted target in another thread. 50/50 LLA/ J wax. Cleaned the barrel after the HOT loads with 50/50 ATF/kerosine, just a few sparkles and black grunge - same as PCd cleaning.
Mistakenly loaded some 145gr GC way too hot for BO but results were still good, didn't chrony but figured 2400+ fps (I did chrony 1 1/2 gr less and got 2100 - some just PC & some BLL). All had 2 coats BLL only. Posted target in another thread. 50/50 LLA/ J wax. Cleaned the barrel after the HOT loads with 50/50 ATF/kerosine, just a few sparkles and black grunge - same as PCd cleaning.
Monochrome
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At least the lunmark is available. Can even get a CLEAR paste wax in a can on amazon. OH happy days i guess?