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Ian

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Easily could be. I ditched th bipod tonight and the beavertail fore end was sort of jammed into the horns of the front bag. Front bag is naugahide on top and sticks to the stock finish, so follow through is erratic to some degree. Even the mp nato groups had a little stringing.

I'm wondering how soft the bullets are, two days out from a 400 degree bake and air cool. Probably about 11 bhn. What can I say, I get impatient.:oops:
 

Ian

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Try 10.0 bhn, and predicted 2534 fps. I wonder what that would do to a rock chuck?
 

fiver

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if your spinning the bullet quick enough, the soft ones will usually remove part of the body.
hard alloys will zip through soft stuff, I remember shooting a ground squirrel with some about 18 BHN alloy at around 2200 fps and it just stayed right where it was.
I could see the hit in the scope but thought maybe I missed so I shot again and it just sat there but not moving.
ground squirrels can't not move for more than 3 seconds if they are in the open so one just sitting up in the open like that is unusual especially after being shot at twice.
I walked over to it to see what was up.
it had 2 holes right through the chest and it's insides were like jello but the holes in and out were just barely over 22 caliber.
if I hit them with a soft alloy they just cease to be an entire animal.

rock chucks are pretty tough and their skin is almost like an ELK, it will stretch and pull and is hard to cut even with a razor sharp knife.
I tend to shoot them in the shoulders and neck area to anchor them, a body shot will allow them to climb back down in their den.
I can only recall one time I ever got any kind of explosive reaction on one and that was with a 223 using the old sierra 45 gr hornet [223 diameter] bullet pushed to maximum velocity in a 7 twist barrel at about 200 yds.
they are a pretty good medium for seeing how a deer bullet will perform on a deer once you see the wound similarity's a few times.
 

Intheshop

Banned
I've shot enough crows now with that jacked up 22-250 (2600fps 225-55RF) to be certain of a cpl things......

The sharper the edges of the metplat, the further the chunks are gonna be apart.The other is about terminal ballistics in living tissue(feathers,haha)..... it's the ole,the more I learn,the less I know.Meaning,what looks good on paper..... May or may not pan out on jackin live game?Speed kills,yup..... combine speed/bore size/razor sharp metplat.My jacked up '06 and hitting varmints looks like a deer when hit by a semi.The blood/funk gets blasted out the back for several feet,looks like a wake comin off the back of a ski boat.
 
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