Busy day today.

[Ben]

I cast quite a few bullets today.

One of my favorites right now is the .30 cal. Accurate 210 H ( 2 dia. nose ). A super accurate bullet.

Pretty easy to see why I like this one :

I also cast quite a few Lyman 311466's that I plain based the mould on a few years ago. It is a fine shooter also.

Recently , I plain based a 2 cavity .30 cal., ELCO 169 gr. g/c mould.
I plain based both cavities. The cast bullets weigh 175 grs. now. ( I see a couple of reject bullets in the photo, do you see them ? ? ? )

 

[Jack Swilling]

"30 cal. Accurate 210 H"

How heavy are they all dressed up?
I was looking for a heavy for my .308s
That looks like a winner

 

[RBHarter]

I see 2 right off , and 2 more that need hands on to have a closer look . Over all a good looking lot . Looks like you might get some groups out of them also .

 

[waco]

I was looking for a heavy for my .308s

How bout the NOE 312290. Mine cast out around 220gr.

 

[Ben]

How heavy are they all dressed up?

About 215 grs.
The big meplat of the Accurate 210 H vs. the RN or spire pt of other hvy weights............no comparison in the killing dept. With that said, I'm a big fan of the 311290 like WACO.

Ben

 

[smokeywolf]

About your rejects... Mold not hot enough or does your mix need a skoshe more tin? I'm asking, not presuming.

 

[Ben]

I think a bit more tin could very well be in order.

Ben

 

[fiver]

just a titch more mold heat could help too.
I generally run my Accurate's right at the point I get a little grey color in the middle of the bullet.
it's a pain keeping it there and exhausting to run the mold with that much attention, but it pay's off on the paper.

I seen 2 rejects too, and maybe some reflection on 2 others.

 

[Ian]

• I never could get good bullets running the moulds as cold as Ben does, maybe one day. I usually have to get to the the other end of the mould temperature spectrum, past the ashy-white band edge phase, until it evens out on the high side with a light, satin frost. Well, unless I'm using Linotype which at 500°F will make perfect bullets from a mould that's barely warm enough to sizzle water.

pardon the dot, my laptop touchpad has a mind of its own and I can't unclick the list button.

 

[Brad]

pardon the dot, my laptop touchpad has a mind of its own and I can't unclick the list button.

My iPad, typos and all, will not pardon the dot. After all the grief it has taken over the years, no way.

Ben, I saw a couple of rejects. Nothing major, just a few swirls.

I too tend to run moulds hotter and get frosted bullets. Makes no difference to me, Ben gets bullets that shoot well and that is what matters most.

 

[Ben]

Actually, the bullets are pretty good.
The photos weren't very good, I took them with my phone.
Should have taken the photos with my nice Minolta Camera.
I'll sort through the bullets prior to lube and sizing.

Ben

 

[Brother_Love]

Ben,
Do you segregate the Acc 220 bullets by groove design before you load them? I wondered if that would make a difference in groups. I am thinking of ordering one of those molds and does it have a 35 caliber cousin?
Malcolm

PS: my eyes are failing me with age so I could not see any rejects. I have to wear a magnifying visor to check my own bullets nowadays.

 

[Ben]

Do you segregate the Acc 220 bullets by groove design before you load them?

Yes, the T/L design is shot as a " lot ", the conventional lube groove design is shot as a " lot ".

Ben

 

[Ben]

PS: my eyes are failing me with age so I could not see any rejects. I have to wear a magnifying visor to check my own bullets nowadays.

Malcolm,

I don't think time has been overly kind to any of us.

Ben

 

[Brad]

Yes, the T/L design is shot as a " lot ", the conventional lube groove design is shot as a " lot ".

Ben

Ever try a 10 shot group with 5 of each? Do they group together?

 

[Ben]

I am thinking of ordering one of those molds and does it have a 35 caliber cousin?
Malcolm

Malcolm,

Tom @ Accurate moulds shows this one :

Although not a direct copy of the .30 cal. mold that he made for me, it is quite similar. The meplat on the .35 design is a bit smaller. BTW, not a thing wrong with the design above, if it chambers OK ( nose dia. can and is critical to smooth chambering ) and you have fast enough twist in your rifle to stabilize a bullet that long.

If you're feeding these in a bolt action rifle, your rifle may not tolerate the wide meplat of my own personal design, the above meplat of Tom's current design would be more feed friendly from the mag. box of a bolt action rifle.

Tom can and will change anything about this design you want..........larger dia. meplat, 2 dia. nose, conventional lube groove and/or T/L., length ( weight ). For a small fee, he will put 2 different designs in the same mold blocks, just like he did for me.

E Mail is the best way to communicate with Tom.

Ben

 

[Ben]

Ever try a 10 shot group with 5 of each? Do they group together?

I've never shot them into the " same group ".
I have shot two different targets, one with the T/L design, one with the conventional lube groove design, the impact point didn't change.

Ben

 

[fiver]

it wouldn't be too hard to change that 300 to a single lube groove design and pull the nose down to 250, 225 or even 200 grs.

 

[Ian]

I've never shot them into the " same group ".
I have shot two different targets, one with the T/L design, one with the conventional lube groove design, the impact point didn't change.

Ben

I think a few of us were curious if there was a group size difference notable between the two styles of lube grooves.

 

[Ben]

Ian,

If there is a difference in the accuracy potential of the two, I've been unable to detect it at this point in time.

Ben