Cleaning 2 revolvers and not finding any bore leading!

Maven

Well-Known Member
I cleaned 2 of my revolvers the other day (S & W Mod. 10, 4" HB; Ruger SBH 10.5" bbl.) after firing 200 rounds in the former and 100 in the latter and was surprised to find no forcing cone or bore leading in the SBH, but less so with the S & W as it rarely leads at all. I was using as cast Lee SWC-TL's (.358" in the Smith & .4295" in the Ruger) lubed with Lar's Xlox, but not water dropped or heat treated in any manner. The loads were 4.4gr.- and 8.0gr. Unique, respectively, ignited by MagTech SP and Wolf LP primers, again, respectively.

What's surprising is that the SBH normally leaves enough lead in the forcing cone to be annoying, but not enough to compromise accuracy. Moreover, although that gun does best with .431" CB's, it's still impressively accurate with the slightly smaller diameter Lee SWC-TL design. In case you're wondering, I beagled my Lee 6 cav. SWC-TL mold, which -> .434" droppings. When sized to .431", they were more accurate than their slightly smaller brethren. Ah..., but there's the rub: Who wants to size and lube a CB designed to be cast, tumble lubed, loaded, and then fired? Ergo, the beagling tape was removed and the mold returned to normal.

Btw, as I'm not at home now and don't have access to my usual presses, I have to rely on the very small and somewhat delicate Lee press for loading both the .38Spl. and .44Mag. rounds that I use on the indoor range here in FL. Since said press doesn't really have the strength to crimp the larger rounds, I've take to taper crimping both the .38's and .44's and have had "0" problems and no reduction in accuracy that I can see. Previous work with a chronograph revealed no meaningful difference in velocity v. crimped rounds, all else being equal of course. Just something you may want to think about with lighter loads.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
I agree with you just fine, Maven. I shot 22 grains of 2400 with the Keith bullet for 20 years and never had any lead, except the forcing cone. Never needed any harder bullets than WW's, as it was just a waste of time. Nor did I every find a need to crimp anything until I started using H110/WW296 and slower ball powders. On the 429421 and max loads of Unique, just enough crimp to keep the bullet from un-seating was fine. Life was simple and shooting accurate with pistol powders of the day. Once I stopped using old Lyman Banana lube and their black tallow lube and converted to NRA Formula, life was good.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Yep, yep, yep. The whole "gotta be hard as bricks" doesn't seem to hold for my pistol loads either.
Yep on NRA 50-50, and add in LBT Soft Blue, plus a few other good formulas.

No leading is normal for me, too. Life is good.

Bill
 

Maven

Well-Known Member
Fired 50 more Lee SWC-TL's, lubed with Lars' Liquid Xlox in the S & W Mod. 10 yesterday, with only the slightest race of bore or forcing cone leading (same 4.4gr. charge of Unique; clean bbl., but roll crimped). Btw, the alloy was WW + ~1% Sn, but strictly as cast: neither weighed nor sized, just sorted to remove CB's with obvious flaws.