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quicksylver
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Nice find.
Do those accept the current production H&I dies ?
I think I see one on the table.
The reason I ask is because I was told they do not.
Do those accept the current production H&I dies ?
I think I see one on the table.
The reason I ask is because I was told they do not.
smokeywolf
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Bought a new H&I die for my Lyman 45 about 3 years ago. Not sure about since then.
Ian
Notorious member
WOW. I'd say put it in a glass box, but then again it was meant to be used.
The modern Lyman dies will fit just fine even though the set screws don't seem to line up with the land between the sealing o-rings in the die and can cut the top o-ring when tightened.
The few RCBS dies that I have are about .002" too large on the bottom to go into the old 45s, and that doesn't sound like much but is a lot of sanding to get them to fit.
The modern Lyman dies will fit just fine even though the set screws don't seem to line up with the land between the sealing o-rings in the die and can cut the top o-ring when tightened.
The few RCBS dies that I have are about .002" too large on the bottom to go into the old 45s, and that doesn't sound like much but is a lot of sanding to get them to fit.
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freebullet
Guest
Neat find!
I'd put it away & auction it during the next panic, only because I'm finally set up with a star.
I'd put it away & auction it during the next panic, only because I'm finally set up with a star.
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freebullet
Guest
Your missing out! Some antiques are better than anything produced today.
My star is older than me and old enough to be considered an antique. I really prefer antique vehicles too. Antique guns, trucks, knives, wood, & many others are worth having.
Modern conveniences spoil us.
My star is older than me and old enough to be considered an antique. I really prefer antique vehicles too. Antique guns, trucks, knives, wood, & many others are worth having.
Modern conveniences spoil us.
Rally Hess
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Just don't overtighten the retainer screw for the die. There are alot of 45's with cracks from overtightening them.
Is the alignment on these as good or better than the typical 4500 or RCBS? If it's good, what heater should I get for it? The 4500 have the plug in units.
I think I paid too much for it. $100, but it is reallly cool retro and I like those things. I might set it up for my retro bullets. 8mm, 45 Colt etc.
Jeff
I think I paid too much for it. $100, but it is reallly cool retro and I like those things. I might set it up for my retro bullets. 8mm, 45 Colt etc.
Jeff
Ian
Notorious member
The alignment is far better, but the leverage far less. Like RH said, don't overtighten the die set screw, it will crack the frame or at least stretch it oblong...in which case the die will be forced out of alignment to the rear. I have to shim the back of the die on a few of mine due to overzealous previous owners. An advantage of the 45 is you will never cross thread the die retention nut because it doesn't have one. If your 45 has a brass split ring for a lube piston seal, beware it will bypass lube like crazy. The pressure piston can be replaced with an o-ring type out of a 450 or 4500.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don't know about alignment being any better than an RCBS or not but the 45 is a more elegant, refined tool than either the RCBS or later 450/4500. As Ian said, it's more delicate too. Don't horse it. I would think any base type heater would work fine.
FYI- the 8mm and 45 aren't "retro". It's just that the rest of the world hasn't caught on yet...troglodytes.
FYI- the 8mm and 45 aren't "retro". It's just that the rest of the world hasn't caught on yet...troglodytes.
Pistolero
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I have one, it works fine for me, and I can verify it uses std
Lyman dies and top punches. Handle is weak, have to take it easy on the
old girl. I always thought my Lyman 450 had flimsy linkage, comparing it
to my RCBS (near clone), but once I got the 45, I saw that the 450 was
a lot stronger than the 45 - and RCBS came along later (I assume) and made theirs
even stronger. Is the 4500 linkage upgraded from the 450?
Lyman dies and top punches. Handle is weak, have to take it easy on the
old girl. I always thought my Lyman 450 had flimsy linkage, comparing it
to my RCBS (near clone), but once I got the 45, I saw that the 450 was
a lot stronger than the 45 - and RCBS came along later (I assume) and made theirs
even stronger. Is the 4500 linkage upgraded from the 450?
quicksylver
Well-Known Member
BTW, a $10.00 hair dryer works as well if not better than a base heater.