For those new to alloying tin and lead

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
well, Iike I said it is do-able and given your background you know the risks and safety procedures, since you only have a few pounds you can do it in 1 afternoon, its a learning experience, I'm a patriot, I believe in free speech and free flow of information, I believe in natural selection, I think all the warning labels should be removed from the plastic bags and hot coffee, I think they should bring back Jarts (those of you from generations past know what those were) and real electric fly swatters, If I myself fall prey to "stupid" then I guess I just didn't make the cut..... (I don't have any liberal friends either lol) so if you want to know how to do it and I have done it and remained in 1 piece I'll tell you.
Sometimes I wander how I am still above ground.I have had a few hold my beer moments. LOL. Most of the time I learn, and only make the same mistake once.
 

hrpenley

Active Member
You really want a rush pm me and I'll give you the procedure for making 84/16 lead arsenic from elemental arsenic, for boosting you heat treating without using ww or as additive to make up the missing arsenic when cutting ww with clean alloy (yes I did it and I can send you pics if you want at least of the raw and finished products) basically full lab set up there (however I recommend just sending you the address and phone number of a company in Belgium that still sells it- which I found after going through the trouble of getting the materials and making my own).
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
Thank you, no.
Did a lead extraction from contaminated wheel weight material, a while back.
Posted it here in a thread.
Long Story short, decided there are places that I would rather not go unless I absolutely had to...
..........I believe arsenic infusion is one of those.
 

hrpenley

Active Member
Thank you, no.
Did a lead extraction from contaminated wheel weight material, a while back.
Posted it here in a thread.
Long Story short, decided there are places that I would rather not go unless I absolutely had to...
..........I believe arsenic infusion is one of those.
I have no intention of doing it again either, way to much trouble, got enough to treat 2000lb of pure alloys add the ww and i should be good for life or at least as long as I can hold a mold. although I have thought about casting a few silver bullets anyone ever try that one? just think it would be kind a cool to try, not sure how it would treat a barrel either.
 
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Mitty38

Well-Known Member
I have no intention of doing it again either, way to much trouble, got enough to treat 2000lb of pure alloys add the ww and i should be good for life or at least as long as I can hold a mold. although I have thought about casting a few silver bullets anyone ever try that one? just think it would be kind a cool to try, not sure how it would treat a barrel either.
Did some jewelry making with silver a while back, it is very finicky. Cracks easy if it cools off too fast, and the cracks may not reveal their self until they are under stress. Plus silver needs room to breath during the pour. I am betting you would almost have to first, cast wax bullets. Then use the lost wax method, to get a good bullet that is not going to fly apart, and will come out a proper size. That's how most silver casting is done.
Of course, the proper procedure is all speculation, till the proper outcome it is achieved.
Boy, did this train go of the track. LOL
 
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hrpenley

Active Member
Did some jewelry making with silver a while back, it is very finicky. Cracks easy if it cools off too fast, and the cracks may not reveal their self until they are under stress. Plus silver needs room to breath during the pour. I am betting you would almost have to first, cast wax bullets. Then use the lost wax method, to get a good bullet that is not going to fly apart, and will come out a proper size. That's how most silver casting is done.
Of course, the proper procedure is all speculation, till the proper outcome it is achieved.
Boy, did this train go of the track. LOL
Ya it did lol, I'm working on next installment, got a little behind although the silver thing does interest me, may be better machining them from solid round stock like they do with the high end solid copper projectiles - probably get better results.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Over there many years ago there was a whole thread with PhD level jewelry guys about a genuine effort to cast a silver bullet inspired by the then fresh wave of vampire vs werewolf movies .
The interested party actually spent the money on the tools for the effort , graphite mold , crucible , kiln , the whole bucket . At the end it was concluded that while not in staying with the theme of the silver bullet shot would be about 1000x easier and probably way more target effective too .

Electroplating an under sized bullet anyone ?
 

Mitty38

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Solved my antimony issue....whimped out. Took the easy way, made copies of the certification, and mine certificates, broke it down into 4 oz packages, then resold it.
Now I have enough money to buy 5 lb of super hard and a bag of hard shot. That supply will probably last a lifetime, as they will probably only be used to make hunting bullets, and maybe 1 long distance load for 1 rifle, as I shoot mostly short range target and plinking.
 
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