Glass Bedding

Ben

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My friend Denis sent this today.
He has been shooting his .222 Rem. that I pillar bedded recently.
Ben

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Hi, Ben,
Here is today's target with the standard neck Single Shot Savage w/ Krieger barrel -- in 222 Remington.
Burger 52 gr FB HP over 19.1 gr. of 4198
I replaced the old scope with a new Weaver 48 X

IT WAS THE SCOPE...…………………..

Attached is today's target.
All are three shot groups at 100 yds.
Berger 52 gr FB HP --and a 4 oz trigger---- over 19.1 gr of 4198

Maybe one of the very best targets I have ever shot.
And with a rusty old nasty Savage ..in 222Remington.

Used new Weaver 48 x scope .
Finally , a clear sight picture.
I am kicking myself for not changing scopes before.

Looks like the standard neck will shoot just fine.
Many thanks, Ben.

Here are some photos of the work :


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Uncle Grinch

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Nice looking rifle for a “rusty old Savage”.

The front lug bedding looks great, but what happened to the rear? Looks like a section broke loose.
BTW... I just love this classic old cartridge. Used to have two and would love to have another.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Nice work, Ben.

Off Topic already, but that's the neatest little purpose-specific bench I've ever seen. Hope that wasn't a "trade secret."

222 is a favorite of mine too, but I've never shot jacketed out of one yet.
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
I like the bench as well. Just last weekend I bedded my first time, with some well appreciated advice from Ben. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but I think it turned out well. Thanks Ben.
 

Ben

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I like the bench as well. Just last weekend I bedded my first time, with some well appreciated advice from Ben. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but I think it turned out well. Thanks Ben.

Thank you, keep us in the loop with how the rifle shoots.

Ben
 

Ben

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Off Topic already, but that's the neatest little purpose-specific bench I've ever seen. Hope that wasn't a "trade secret."

No trade secret.
Sometimes, some of my stock work just works better if done outside.
The clean up is quicker.

Ben
 

Rick H

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Back in the day I had a bone stock Remington 700 Varmint Special in .222R with heavy barrel. I adjusted the trigger to a crisp 2.5 lbs. had a straight 12X El Paso Weaver scope on it and competed in local 100 yd. benchrest competition. I used the same 19.1 gr. of 4198 and Hornady match 53 gr. HP's. I loaded them with the Lee target whack a mole reloading outfit with the inside neck reamer. That rifle was scary accurate and competitive with the Rem. XBR and sleeved actions that were commonly in use. I never won but that was not because of the rifle, it was the shooter. I am still kicking myself for letting me get talked out of it.

Nice work on the bedding.

The .222Rem is a great cartridge.
 

Ben

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It was the " KING " in the 1960's in BR competition.
Today, it is still a great cartridge.

Ben
 

Uncle Grinch

Active Member
Have you ever bedded a Savage 110 single shot ?
I’m sorry Ben, I’ve never owned or bedded a Savage in all my 71 years.
My mother would also answer a question with another question, but in her case, I usually knew the answer. In this case I’m ignorant of the reason.
 

Ben

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What looks like " something broke loose " is the proper way to bed the rifle.

Ben
 
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Tomme boy

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That one have the 3rd action bolt? I had one of the Precision Target actions when they first came out. I had Kevin Rayhill build me a 308w with a Rock Creek 5R with a 1-11.25" twist. It shot good but not that good! Best I was able was a 0.2"

You did a better job than SSS that did a 223 for me. I had to redo it myself.
 

Intheshop

Banned
Nice work....

I noticed the cool bench before the rifle,haha.

Those old 222-4198 loads( I had a 722 in this calibre,10X Weaver) that were so well loved are very interestingly almost perfect in 223 bolt guns with a well prepped 55g cast bullet. Very good velocity,and match winning accuracy with a good driver in slow twist,and chambered for "short" varmint bullets.....rifles. The "rough" factory barrels seem to really like the node around 26-2800fps. Best when new.... something about the chamber erosion that takes a little gilt off? But folks are so enamored with tight twists and "get that factory brrl off",asap that they'll practically give them to you? That,and how well they work with this powder bullet combination..... probably shouldn't be espoused too much,back to the original owner,haha.
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
My bench technique could be improved on, but I'm pleased with the bedding job, my first time with Ben's guidance.IMG_20190526_172714925_HDR-2624x1476.jpg Before bedding.
IMG_20190526_172724864_HDR-2624x1476.jpg After bedding, with free-floating barrel.
IMG_20190526_172733412_HDR-2624x1476.jpg After bedding and with forend pressure.
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
Now how to determine how thick to make a permanent pad for the forend . Trial and error I suppose.
 

Ben

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Make 3 shims of different thicknesses.
Shoot the rifle with each of the shims.
The one that shoots the tightest groups.
Come home and glass bed that shim in place.

Ben
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
Makes sense Ben. Use metal I guess? I was surprised how much the scope was off after bedding, wasn't even on paper.
 

Ben

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Makes sense Ben. Use metal I guess? I was surprised how much the scope was off after bedding, wasn't even on paper.

Yes, don't use anything than can absorb or release moisture.
Do you have access to varying thicknesses of brass or aluminum ?
Your last group shown looks like a good place to start. Do you still
have the " shim " that you used to put fore end pressure on the barrel ?
Yes, I've seen many rifles behave in this fashion.

Ben
 
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