Goin' Green
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Ian
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I looked that up too and was a little surprised. "Piker" around here means either a greenhorn, wet-behind-the-ears novice, or someone who only dabbles in something in a half-assed way or part time. Cheapskate is definitely genetic, I'm half cheapskate (father's side) and frugal (mother's side, a by-product of being married to a cheapskate). But, on occasion I grit my teeth and splurge on something really nice, usually as a gift to other people.
Fiddler
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The 50 rnd. 22 and 17 RF Mag boxes will hold:
55 pieces of 22 Hornet brass.
50 to 66 30 cal cast bullets depending on the length.
30 something 25-20 WCF
Taps, end mills, gas checks, small lots of various J bullets.
I did a count a year or 2 ago and came up with 120+ as I recall. I don't own either of those calibers, just range pick ups
55 pieces of 22 Hornet brass.
50 to 66 30 cal cast bullets depending on the length.
30 something 25-20 WCF
Taps, end mills, gas checks, small lots of various J bullets.
I did a count a year or 2 ago and came up with 120+ as I recall. I don't own either of those calibers, just range pick ups
When a guy has quantities of what fits, or how scrounged containers nest with others - that's getting into high-level stuff.
RBHarter
West Central AR
Well , piker fits me ........ I'm with frugal , actually she identifies as a penny pincher . We actually buy stuff on sale because it's stock up but for it's packages too .
I've been known to run split neck 06' down to x57 , 308 , and a host of 45s just so I didn't have to toss it . So I have 40-50 pieces of 06' HS that looks 41 Auto Mag that is actually cut to the cylinder length of the 45 BH for 1/2 oz shot shells .
Repurposed is the usuals coffee cans , peanut butter jars , etc . I did spring for several Flambu boxes for the die parts , shell holders , dummies , cutters , pilots , etc . Until last June ammo cans were cheap and plentiful for me so that's what the bulk of the loaded ammo is in . Of late Ms fufu Christmas candles became a test batch of Darrs based lube she used warmers so most of the fufu is evaporated off.
We get 6 scrips a month so there are lots of pill bottles . When I remember I ask for a "tallboy" bottle which holds 4 or 5 loaded 1917 45 ACP clips .......just like saying I actually have 30 round , clip , magazine for my revolver just to see heads explode .
The short fat bottles hold about 150 empty clips . They also hold air tight , or close to it , your spare SAA , 1858 , 1860 , RBH cylinders . The one in between will hold pairs of the Lee style sizer dies ie for paper patched .
In extreme cases a 12 ga 2 3/4 will hold 10 paper bills and 25 of them in a 3" box . Clever stash for $250 to $25k . Cut to 2' when the crimps are blown they make nifty Christmas lights too .
Spent 9mm, 40 &45 cases make cute drawer pulls . For light drawers and with a #10 area/fender washer a great drawer pull spacer .
I've been known to run split neck 06' down to x57 , 308 , and a host of 45s just so I didn't have to toss it . So I have 40-50 pieces of 06' HS that looks 41 Auto Mag that is actually cut to the cylinder length of the 45 BH for 1/2 oz shot shells .
Repurposed is the usuals coffee cans , peanut butter jars , etc . I did spring for several Flambu boxes for the die parts , shell holders , dummies , cutters , pilots , etc . Until last June ammo cans were cheap and plentiful for me so that's what the bulk of the loaded ammo is in . Of late Ms fufu Christmas candles became a test batch of Darrs based lube she used warmers so most of the fufu is evaporated off.
We get 6 scrips a month so there are lots of pill bottles . When I remember I ask for a "tallboy" bottle which holds 4 or 5 loaded 1917 45 ACP clips .......just like saying I actually have 30 round , clip , magazine for my revolver just to see heads explode .
The short fat bottles hold about 150 empty clips . They also hold air tight , or close to it , your spare SAA , 1858 , 1860 , RBH cylinders . The one in between will hold pairs of the Lee style sizer dies ie for paper patched .
In extreme cases a 12 ga 2 3/4 will hold 10 paper bills and 25 of them in a 3" box . Clever stash for $250 to $25k . Cut to 2' when the crimps are blown they make nifty Christmas lights too .
Spent 9mm, 40 &45 cases make cute drawer pulls . For light drawers and with a #10 area/fender washer a great drawer pull spacer .
Frozen lasagna trays. The takeaway here isn't the trays.....
It's the single dado cut that serves as part of the drawer slide.
Imagine a pce of real 1/4" plywood (old weyerhouser "paneling" from the 60's is tough to beat)..... that fits the slot. Now,build a drawer on top of it so that the bttm is proud of the drawer. The 2 sides and back are the same height....
You could cut the front the same as the other drawer parts but you'd see the fr edge of the "bttm". So,cut the front wide enough to cover the bttm..... and also "long" enough to cover the carcass sides,where it will hide the dado's.
Pay attention to the distance between the drawer fronts. I'll snap a pic of an example later. Try to develop or practice mental imaging...... yes a picture is worth a thousand words but......
If you're going to be conversant in cabinet or casework then..... you have to be able to "see it" without cheat sheets( pics).
It's the single dado cut that serves as part of the drawer slide.
Imagine a pce of real 1/4" plywood (old weyerhouser "paneling" from the 60's is tough to beat)..... that fits the slot. Now,build a drawer on top of it so that the bttm is proud of the drawer. The 2 sides and back are the same height....
You could cut the front the same as the other drawer parts but you'd see the fr edge of the "bttm". So,cut the front wide enough to cover the bttm..... and also "long" enough to cover the carcass sides,where it will hide the dado's.
Pay attention to the distance between the drawer fronts. I'll snap a pic of an example later. Try to develop or practice mental imaging...... yes a picture is worth a thousand words but......
If you're going to be conversant in cabinet or casework then..... you have to be able to "see it" without cheat sheets( pics).
Another "trick" that ain't........
And this should not be looked at as a "vs" the above dado trick. More like,one more method in your arsenal.
The dado above is "subtractive"...... to create the slot you can also accomplish it with an "additive" process. And NO,3D printing didn't invent this concept..... that's only a cpl hunert years late,haha. Anyway,you have a carcass side,you can add 1/4" to the inside,with the use of gage blocks to set the slot dimensions. So now the case sides aren't 3/4" thick anymore..... they're 1" thick,except where the "slot" is.
I will spare you the instances where additive beats subtractive..... but make sure you keep this process "bookmarked". It is stupid fast and uses up "scrap". Also means less waste. A dado or mould profile produces a lot of swarf. Unless you have a drop dead gorgeous French maid cleaning your shop,well suffice it to say,time is money and anything we can do to lessen the barrels of sawdust needs to be considered.
And this should not be looked at as a "vs" the above dado trick. More like,one more method in your arsenal.
The dado above is "subtractive"...... to create the slot you can also accomplish it with an "additive" process. And NO,3D printing didn't invent this concept..... that's only a cpl hunert years late,haha. Anyway,you have a carcass side,you can add 1/4" to the inside,with the use of gage blocks to set the slot dimensions. So now the case sides aren't 3/4" thick anymore..... they're 1" thick,except where the "slot" is.
I will spare you the instances where additive beats subtractive..... but make sure you keep this process "bookmarked". It is stupid fast and uses up "scrap". Also means less waste. A dado or mould profile produces a lot of swarf. Unless you have a drop dead gorgeous French maid cleaning your shop,well suffice it to say,time is money and anything we can do to lessen the barrels of sawdust needs to be considered.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
ITS what brand lasagna?
In my lengthy "Shop Tips" thread I brought over from the other place I run down a long list of repurposed, reused, modified items.
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In my lengthy "Shop Tips" thread I brought over from the other place I run down a long list of repurposed, reused, modified items.
Shop tips?
I fully intend to retrieve my postings from another site regarding shop tips and put them here if that's okay with you. My intellectual property and all that. Is that ok with the staff?
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Bret,part of the problem here is "selling it".
Let's say I take a common 2x4 and make ___ out of it. Then sell the product.... if it still resembles the 2x4 therein starts a whole waterfall of comments that generally aren't real positive. The fact that the base ingredient is just "packaged" in a convenient form escapes the conversation. Translated... we need a pce of KD spruce 1 1/4" x 2 7/8".... no,make that 100 pcs.
The fact that the 2x4 is a logical donor here gets overlooked..... "that's a 2x4" is going to be at issue. So,we generally try to be a touch more inconspicuous.
Wifey says Stoufer's on the lasagna trays. Pretty bad stuff really. Waaay too much salt and fat.
Let's say I take a common 2x4 and make ___ out of it. Then sell the product.... if it still resembles the 2x4 therein starts a whole waterfall of comments that generally aren't real positive. The fact that the base ingredient is just "packaged" in a convenient form escapes the conversation. Translated... we need a pce of KD spruce 1 1/4" x 2 7/8".... no,make that 100 pcs.
The fact that the 2x4 is a logical donor here gets overlooked..... "that's a 2x4" is going to be at issue. So,we generally try to be a touch more inconspicuous.
Wifey says Stoufer's on the lasagna trays. Pretty bad stuff really. Waaay too much salt and fat.
Ian
Notorious member
It costs an inch of drawer box width, but I don't even bother to make a drawer bank unless it's going to have FULL EXTENSION K/V slides installed. Not to be a snob, I'm just DONE bending over and digging in the back of a drawer or having to pull the whole thing out and find a place to set it down so I can go through it. Cubbyhole shelving is much more useful to me than drawers that don't fully extend. I do like the solid pine drawers, though, nothing like it for the shop, it's a feel and smell thing. I have an ancient Long Leaf pine drawer bank that has "that" smell, feel, and sound that only solid wood, dovetailed drawers can have. Dovetailing is one thing I never got the tools nor ejumication to pull off. I've done it by hand a few times but it always needed some sawdust and glue in a few places.
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fiver
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I like that solid bottom drawer.
if I could do passable wood work other than making work benches, and rough framing, I'd probably steal that idea.
the wife thinks that if she has 20 tee shirts in the laundry that all 20 of them come from the same drawer. they are going back in that drawer even if she has to use the size 12 shoe to compact them through the bottom into the other drawer below it.
never mind there is an empty drawer just to the right of that one.
if I could do passable wood work other than making work benches, and rough framing, I'd probably steal that idea.
the wife thinks that if she has 20 tee shirts in the laundry that all 20 of them come from the same drawer. they are going back in that drawer even if she has to use the size 12 shoe to compact them through the bottom into the other drawer below it.
never mind there is an empty drawer just to the right of that one.
No dado blades were dulled in this operation,haha. This is additive.... the 1/4" plywood builds the slots..... instead of machining them,which would be subtractive.
The "freeby" here is the fillet created by
holding the shelf's frontal plane back from the vert pce. Which is in my view the definition of a "fillet".... they are a "result" of an action vs the usual notion that they are milled. Yes you can mill a fillet..... but that's not their true endorsement. It's better when they're "free".
The "freeby" here is the fillet created by
holding the shelf's frontal plane back from the vert pce. Which is in my view the definition of a "fillet".... they are a "result" of an action vs the usual notion that they are milled. Yes you can mill a fillet..... but that's not their true endorsement. It's better when they're "free".
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I've done shelving and drawers both way, additive and subtractive. Mine are no where near as nice looking but the garage doesn't seem to care. I think cubbies are harder to build and use than drawers, but it's not easy to build a drawer with a 2" stock bottom for cheap!
Ian
Notorious member
"Fillets" also have the advantage of being an automatic location for flush-mount doors if you want them, like out in the shop to keep dust off of things. Little strip of self-adhesive foam weatherstrip and you can dang near make them airtight.
I'm a big fan of shelf pins and gang-drilling spaced holes for them myself, but not as strong or stable as plywood support plates.
I'm a big fan of shelf pins and gang-drilling spaced holes for them myself, but not as strong or stable as plywood support plates.
Just interesting,when you Google fillet as it applies to moulds.....
There is some pretty near useless info regarding such..... reminds me of that movie Good Will hunting where Robin Williams tells the "genius" wiz kid about the difference in book knowledge and the practical side of things. So when you look up fillet..... the emphasis is on the "profile"...
It ain't the profile..... it comes about from a "usage" perspective. Which gets lost on folks who've obviously never created one. And excuse this but,it's about the $$$.... further evidence about talking chit, vs doing it. Anytime a professional can get "free" mileage,you can lay down a bet we're gonna take it.
There is some pretty near useless info regarding such..... reminds me of that movie Good Will hunting where Robin Williams tells the "genius" wiz kid about the difference in book knowledge and the practical side of things. So when you look up fillet..... the emphasis is on the "profile"...
It ain't the profile..... it comes about from a "usage" perspective. Which gets lost on folks who've obviously never created one. And excuse this but,it's about the $$$.... further evidence about talking chit, vs doing it. Anytime a professional can get "free" mileage,you can lay down a bet we're gonna take it.
Fiddler
Active Member
OK, not to be out done on this green stuff:
Exhibit A. Shallow baking pan that my wife deemed as gross.
Just a couple strips of wood with rabbets for it to slide in.
Exhibit B: Old 3 X 5 index card files.
and sample drawers.
Yeh, the older cardboard and newer Hornady boxes with the plastic inserts fit very nicely.
Exhibit A. Shallow baking pan that my wife deemed as gross.
Just a couple strips of wood with rabbets for it to slide in.
Exhibit B: Old 3 X 5 index card files.
and sample drawers.
Yeh, the older cardboard and newer Hornady boxes with the plastic inserts fit very nicely.
Oh, I would die in my sleep if I pilfered one of my wife's "gross" baking sheets! They're about pure black after several decades of baking and I am not to touch them.
Just try to give her one of those new-fangled coated ones and I'll tell you right where it'll end up - in my shop as a drawer just as you've done. I like the cake pans because they're a bit deeper.
L Ross
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In addition to all of the other great reuse items might I add, trampoline springs to use on ATV tire chains to tension them instead of rubber stretch straps. Also I stop by a small rail road shop and asked about the empty steel 5 gallon buckets with metal lids and the matching latching rings that Fire Snake rail heating stuff comes in. "Sure, take 'em all, we have to throw them away anyway."