Henry Homesteader
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Rick H
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I have no idea but have read of them working in autopistols. Below is a link to an article on how it worked in at least one Glock. Evidently the extractor held the case and it fires and functions normally from the magazine.
Can You Shoot 40 S&W in a 10mm? - Hunting heart
All about hunting dogs, hog hunting, deer hunting and hunting as a lifestyle. Here we answer the question: Can You Shoot 40 S&W in a 10mm?
huntingheart.com
This guy makes it work in a 1911 and a Springfield autoloader:
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AND,... I have absolutely nothing against walnut stocks, but why waste it on a gun which seems more naturally fitted with cheap, lightweight plastic? I know - not all "plastic" stocks are as light as wood even, but the one thing that has turned me off the most, looking at Henry rifles (lever-actions) is the weight. They all seem to be a tad heavy for what they are and I'd assume this is the same, so I don't bother looking it up. Bear in mind that I tend to gravitate toward unreasonably light guns for their respective chamberings anyway.
I have no doubt their following, which may well be justifiable, will carry this one through. I think it COULD end up being the impetus to bring more attention to such guns and take off itself while dragging others (just Ruger right now) along in its wake, making the concept a little more appealing to others.
Definitely not my cup-o'-tea. If I were to own something like this, it would be like my shotgun; rarely use, cheap, plastic-stocked, short, light, reliable and mostly ignored, hoping I never have to use it, because it would have one purpose - "repelling boarders," as @Missionary aptly put it in @Ben 's "Close Quarters" thread.
My guess would be that it is a well-designed firearm, as Henry does seem to focus on what people need/want as much or more than just the bottom line. Maybe why they cost what they do.
WOW (On the Ruger prices)!
I know my tastes and preferences aren't the same as all others', but to make MY wallet nervous, it'd have to be <5.5# and <$500. I suppose these guys know much better than I do what they can sell though too.
CWLONGSHOT
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Blow back of a 10mm is why we do not have many... It requires a large and heavy bolt or springs or BOTH.. People complain about ANYTHING... So a heavy bolt will draw complaints and heavy springs will do same. IMHO it must be a locked breech and that equals higher cost.
Yea 40 in a 10 is done allot but dosent Make it right. It "headspaces" off ejector. Not what it was designed for. Emergency, SHTF... fine. Every day use not as great an idea.
CW
Yea 40 in a 10 is done allot but dosent Make it right. It "headspaces" off ejector. Not what it was designed for. Emergency, SHTF... fine. Every day use not as great an idea.
CW
Snakeoil
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Your comments reminded me of something I found at the club one day. We were sitting on the firing line chewing the fat when I looked down into the grass off the concrete and noticed some strange looking cases. There were quite a few on the ground and I picked them up to get a closer look. They were 9mm rounds that had expanded above the web to a much larger size. They were all very uniformly deformed. The general consensus was some idiot had loaded a magazine full of 9mm rounds into his .40 and just fired aways, happy as a clam. Don't imagine he hit what he was shooting at.
Always amazes me how some idiots manage to survive beyond the age of 12.
richhodg66
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I, too, am a fan of the M1 Carbine and believe it would make a MUCH better home defense weapon than many seem to think. Complaints about it being under powered in combat are based on performance with FMJ bullets, feed it good, expanding bullets and it has the energy levels of a .357 magnum.Got 4 M1 Carbines in the locker. Who needs a Henry or Ruger?!!
Now if I could just find some backwoods store with a pallet of surplus 30 Carbine ammo for $10.00 @ 100!!!
That said, with the way those have skyrocketed in value, I'm hesitant to put mine to much more use than occasional shooting. I bought it in 1990. My wife is short of limb and recoil shy. Thought this would be the answer. She hasn't shot it in a long time though.
richhodg66
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I am one of few people wnymore who has shot, handloaded and successfully hunted with a 1907 Winchester. They are, of course, straight blow back. For anyone who has never hefted one, it is tough to believe how much they weigh, that short handy carbine looking thing is as heavy as a big varmint rifle, their saving grace is they are well balanced. They made the same rifle in .401 WSL, which is a pretty stout round. I think they could chamber some of these straight blow back designs in something heavy like 10mm (High Point does), but many would find the weight to be a deal breaker, I think.
Are the Ruger carbines straight blow back?
Ian
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I gave more than that for a DI-45 upper, magazine well adapter, and a couple of HK USC magazines.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Thats precisely who I had in mind for one of the Carbines, well...my wife, not yours!
I've got a good supply of brass, dies, etc, but we're right back to the primers/powder thing. A couple of those 1080 round surplus cans would go a long way to making life easier here.richhodg66
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My wifes gradnpa was a WWII vet and liked the M1 Carbine. He had one with a Fajen type stock on it and he'd scoped it at some point, it was his primary deer rifle. I used to just kind of bite my toungue when he talked about deer hunting with a .30 Carbine, but I have hanging on the wall the rack of one of the last few deer he killed with it. It would have been a pretty darn good deer here in Kansas, it was an absolute monster for sand country S.C. especially back then when nobody managed the deer herd at all. He told me he had it scored and it was the 13th biggest on record for the state that year and when you consider the deer season harrdly ever closes and most counties had no limits and everybody hunts there, that's a good figure. He said the buck was well over 200 pounds and I believe it,
I souldn't choose to deer hunt with a .30 carbine, but I sure won't say it can't be done.
I souldn't choose to deer hunt with a .30 carbine, but I sure won't say it can't be done.
I'm interested in them... hopefully the real world price will be down closer to the $700 range....
To me, this would be the autoloader version of a PCC levergun in .357 mag. I'm sure you could shoot the 147gr loads in it. It would be substantilly better than a .32 HR levergun, and a lot of folks seem to like that one.
It's interesting... I'm not sure I'm a buyer yet, but it's interesting.
To me, this would be the autoloader version of a PCC levergun in .357 mag. I'm sure you could shoot the 147gr loads in it. It would be substantilly better than a .32 HR levergun, and a lot of folks seem to like that one.
It's interesting... I'm not sure I'm a buyer yet, but it's interesting.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
It's an autoloading 32/20. Use the right bullet, keep the range short and place your shot right. It'll work, but only under the right conditions by the right person.
Shooting coyotes, rabid coons or convincing someone who shouldn't be doing something on your property that they should leave poste haste...great gun!
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Myself, given the choice between a 9mm carbine and 32 Mag lever gun, I'm taking the lever gun. And as someone who has used the 147 subsonic crap ammo, you are more than welcome to my share of that stuff!
