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Jeff H

NW Ohio
Want to find those arrows? This method works well, especially if they have broadheads. Go put......;)

*&#%^@$, you, Bret!

All the wisdom that floats around this forum - I fell for it. I got all excited and read on thinking I'd be going out in the yard with a piece of garden hose, a length of soft iron wire and a tennis-ball, or something like that, (probably even a coffee can, as they are magical) and magically find those blasted arrows! ALL the way up to "Go put...":(

Dang, don't ya just pull the arrows out of the target?? I mean quit shooting in the ground.

Ya know I'm kidding right, Jeff

I do, and I appreciate being made fun of! Makes me feel welcome here! TWO people made fun of me within minutes, no less!:)

Yeah, I'm not much of an archer. I have a couple nice bows, a fair collection of good arrows, a few REALLY good arrows, and a wheelbarro full of good intent. I can get a bow out, string it up and nail the bullseye the first shot. The longer I shoot, the farther they get from the bullseye. The harder I concentrate, the worse I get. The ore I focus, the more I just flat-out suck at it.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Targets (store bought, not paper) don't last long shooting broadheads. Usually, shoot though cardboard hanging with preferably a sand back stop. You need to test broadheads to see if they shoot the same POA, as your field tips. Political signs work good, but without a backstop they will get buried in the underbrush/leaf clutter.

Yeah, field-points only for me, except for these little gems. They are about as cool as it gets and I seem to manage to hit stuff (which I intend to hit) with them) and the are SO easy to find. Make sure you don't use your very best shafts, because they "tumble" and the fletching takes a beating after a while. The arrows I dedicate tho these is half gone on a few shafts and they're still accurate for some reason.

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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
*&#%^@$, you, Bret!

All the wisdom that floats around this forum - I fell for it. I got all excited and read on thinking I'd be going out in the yard with a piece of garden hose, a length of soft iron wire and a tennis-ball, or something like that, (probably even a coffee can, as they are magical) and magically find those blasted arrows! ALL the way up to "Go put...":(



I do, and I appreciate being made fun of! Makes me feel welcome here! TWO people made fun of me within minutes, no less!:)

Yeah, I'm not much of an archer. I have a couple nice bows, a fair collection of good arrows, a few REALLY good arrows, and a wheelbarro full of good intent. I can get a bow out, string it up and nail the bullseye the first shot. The longer I shoot, the farther they get from the bullseye. The harder I concentrate, the worse I get. The ore I focus, the more I just flat-out suck at it.
You get the Zen going man. My wife and I used to shoot together, nothing formal, just backyard shooting. I could tell when she calmed down and relaxed.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Yeah, field-points only for me, except for these little gems. They are about as cool as it gets and I seem to manage to hit stuff (which I intend to hit) with them) and the are SO easy to find. Make sure you don't use your very best shafts, because they "tumble" and the fletching takes a beating after a while. The arrows I dedicate tho these is half gone on a few shafts and they're still accurate for some reason.

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Oh YEAH! Judo Points!!! I used to use them doing the woods walking thing where you shoot at stumps and knots and whatever. Great field points. And they do a job on small game. Just gotta miss the rocks or the insert will telescope down into the shaft. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. Who still uses aluminum arrows? I've never shot a carbon fiber or whatever they make them out of now!)
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Oh YEAH! Judo Points!!! I used to use them doing the woods walking thing where you shoot at stumps and knots and whatever. Great field points. And they do a job on small game. Just gotta miss the rocks or the insert will telescope down into the shaft. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. Who still uses aluminum arrows? I've never shot a carbon fiber or whatever they make them out of now!)
Ummm,... I use aluminum arrows. I thought it was the hip thing these days.:headscratch:

"Stump-Shooting!"

I set short lengths of small-diameter power-pole sections, or drops from 4x4 treated posts at various distances about the yard. They sorta replicate a woodchuck standing up.

A square hit bounces the arrow straight back several feet. A glancing blow sets the arrow to whirling off and a MISS grabs the sod and goes end-over-end. I have to make my next shot from wherever I pick the arrow up. Sometimes I cheat, "but nobody knows, lawd, but me!";)


Seriously though, aluminum is out of vogue??
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
Aluminum isn't "out", it works as good as it ever did. Carbon fiber is lighter, stiffer per grain, stays straighter, and thus flies faster for any given spine stiffness. It is also more expensive, harder to get fletching to stick to, and you can't straighten it because it breaks instead of taking a bend when abused. You pay your money and make your choice. When I was shooting my old Hoyt compound the change from aluminum to carbon fiber arrows netted me a 30 fps gain with my 58lb. draw weight (from 240 fps to 270fps). When I switched to a crossbow I stayed with carbon fiber. My 400gr arrow (bolt) is now 330 fps. If I built aluminum bolts they would come in much heavier and end up proportionally slower. I have got very good results with the lightweight arrows with fixed broadheads.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. LIke most things in life there are trade offs.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I knew carbon fiber was out there, didn't doubt the benefits, but my arrows take a serious beating and couldn't see messing up the more expensive shafts. I can recycle/repurpose/get rid of messed up aluminum more easily that the other stuff too.

Probably the most important point; like so many who have to have the most advanced whatever, I couldn't see such an advance being recognized, let alone exploited by my abilities. Wasted on me. Last time I bought (not made) a dozen arrows, aluminum seemed very common, so carbon fiber was sort of lost on me. This was three, four years ago.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I based my belief on not having seen an aluminum arrow for sale in years. I stand corrected.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I switched to carbon fiber when I switched to the X-Bow. Main advantage is a flatter trajectory. I have a Romeo 5 red dot on the X-bow. Dot is dialed in to be right on at 20 yards or less. At 40 yards, drop is a mere one inch. Won't try to shoot any farther than that.

I carry two types of Easton bolts. Their carbon fiber, Bloodline and their aluminum covered Full Metal Jacket. The FMJ is for when I'm hunting out of a tree stand and shooting distances are less than 30 yards. Reason is due to the prevalence of exposed rocks in our Arkansas soil, coupled with the downward trajectory.

When hunting on the ground, I use the carbon fiber bolts.
 

Cadillac Jeff

Well-Known Member
I still shoot alum.& still hold my BOW in my hand! I have shot my whole life &acquired lots of stuf,so I am kinda just using up stuff will never have to buy arrows, I am using old Easton X7's a target arrow from the 70s,80,s in my old bear Kodiak mag!


Use what ya got ! Jeff
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Yep, used my bow in my hand too, up until my late 60's. Worn out shoulders just can't hack it anymore. I bow hunt more than I rifle hunt. Always did. In the first three months of Archery season, I get in an average of 18 hours per week, just going out for three hours in the mornings.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I'm shooting Dad's 58" 48# 32" draw Grizzly Bear with a bear hair rest and hand penned specs under the urethane on the riser . Brush buttons . With my new NA card a number of once unavailable fletch options are available to me , real feathers are I believe almost as quiet as plastic vanes . Some dramatically quieter than the by the dozen faux turkey feathers. I wanted to clock it but have never gotten to it . I'm sure with a 425 gr arrow it's slow , the Easton 4011 (?) seems like they felt faster but out to 50 yd there wasn't an appreciable hold over difference.
I only hunted water fowl with it , 1 snow goose , 2 gadwalls , and a hooded merganser didn't seem to bothered by the slowness . Dad killed a couple deer in Utah with it . At 20yd it shot clear through a mulie doe the second one was buried in the off side rib up to the bleeder with the afore mentioned 125 gr Bear Magnums.
 

ChestnutLouie

Active Member
Anybody seen one of these? A 9mm Carbine that isn't all tacticooled out. I'm not real interested in 9mm, but if made in .45 ACP or 10mm or something yet to be determined which is actually reasonably powerful, I would be interested. MSRP seems abit high.

Henry Homesteader
I handled one at the Outdoor Show in Harrisburg, PA a few days ago and it seems nicley finished as expected from Henry. I do not know the weight but it is lighter than my Big Boy 38/357 rifle and is somewhat compact in size. Trigger feels like a stryker fired pistol to me.