Hi-Point 45ACP carbine

richhodg66

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Certainly no uglier than any and all of the ARs out there, not even as ugly as most of them. And a lot simpler and more fun. I like mine, need to work with it more, but initial range sessions seem promising for what it is.

I'm very much a walnut and steel fan and like single shot rifles, but I like these little guns.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
That may indeed be the ugliest firearm I have ever seen. Maybe, if it was the only gun around to be used to get another gun......well maybe.
Some guns you don't buy for aesthetics, like pretty much anything with a non-wood stock and matte finish. These are for other purposes IMO. The Thompson was no beauty queen, nor the BAR or the '17 Enfield, K31 Swiss or SMLE. But they work just fine. Still wish I'd bought a lot of "ugly" guns when they were available and cheap! And ammo, should have bought a lot more surplus ammo!!!

Keltech made/makes a little folding carbine semi auto. They were very, very popular back in my former profession as they weren't real expensive, worked good and were small enough to hide easily in an over stuffed Troop car as we were not, under any circumstances, supposed to have anything like that. As I was retiring they started issuing AR type patrol rifles to a few select members. Not sure who got chosen to get one, but no one offered me the option. A good idea that was a long time coming.
 

Reloader762

Active Member
Do you mean these guys?
I do shoot one of the Lee TL bullets in the carbine and Ruger P 90-DC but it's the 230 gr. TC. The Lee 200 gr. SWC was the one I was referring to in the target I posted, I also have a M&P clone of the same bullet in a six cavity as well as an NOE HP in 45 ACP which will also cast cup point and a FN bullet.

Lee 200 gr. SWC.
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NOE TL452-220-HP

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Reloader762

Active Member
Is alox tumble lube ok or is powder coating required?

6.9 grains of Alliant Power Pistol appears to be about 10% below what Alliant recommends for a 200 grain jacketed bullet
I use 200 gr. SWC data from the Lyman Cast Bullet manual #4 for my Power Pistol load. I don't use the Alox TL anymore since I started powder coating so everything gets powder coated and has for several years now, but I see no reason why you couldn't use the Alox lube is you so desired.
 

Intel6

Active Member
.45 ACP carbines are great fun. I picked up a Camp 45 back in the 90's and loved that thing, PCC's weren't a thing back then. Everything was good with the camp 45 except mag capacity. I kept looking at the bag of grease gun mags I had in my stuff from my army days and wished I could have a carbine that used those. Then Calvary Arms redesigned their lowers so the magwell was wide enough to take GG mags. Got one of those magwell adaptors and built an upper.

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That thing was awesome, 30 rounds of .45 ACP, just like I wanted. Then a guy started making aluminum AR lowers that were dedicated GG lowers and I wanted to upgrade my AR-45. Finally got one of those and reconfigured the upper by installing a spare free float handguard I had laying around and had the same fun gun but in a different package. It was a lot of work back then, now with PCC's being so popular I would just pick up a large frame Glock lower and a .45 ACP upper and be done with it.

Here is the reconfigured AR-45

AR M3 45 ACP WEB.jpg
 

oscarflytyer

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D@m3ed Enablers! Been looking at an AR in pistol caliber. But from what everyone says, this is a no-brainer option!
 

fiver

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Dang Bret.
i always liked the look of the Thompson.
they weighed like 43 pounds and their triggers sucked, but i always liked their looks.

and the BAR?
man talk about steampunk cool.
they weren't beauty queens in a high maintanance sort of way, but more of a Rosie the riveter no nonsense let's get after this type gal.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Dang Bret.
i always liked the look of the Thompson.
they weighed like 43 pounds and their triggers sucked, but i always liked their looks.

and the BAR?
man talk about steampunk cool.
they weren't beauty queens in a high maintanance sort of way, but more of a Rosie the riveter no nonsense let's get after this type gal.
My Savage made Thompson M1 was 100% reliable and would keep a cone of fire within a foot at 50 yards. Since the Huey took me, and it, both in and out, weight wasn't a problem. My main issue was I only had 10 twenty round magazines.

I was in the group that went with the Green Beanies to replace the BAR with M-60's for the IDF. These were left over Korean War guns that didn't have much maintenance. The SF armorers could have one apart and clean and firing in about 15 minutes. They, and all the '06 ammo, all ended up going into rusty CONEX boxes and sunk in the South China Sea.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Dang Bret.
i always liked the look of the Thompson.
they weighed like 43 pounds and their triggers sucked, but i always liked their looks.

and the BAR?
man talk about steampunk cool.
they weren't beauty queens in a high maintanance sort of way, but more of a Rosie the riveter no nonsense let's get after this type gal.
Well, beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. I was thinking more like a G+H '03 from the 30's in the beauty queen area. In rugged, utilitarian looks, yeah, a Thompson or BAR or Hi Point is fine. Ginger, Mary Ann or Great Aunt Hazel who could butcher a rooster and turn it into something to die for at the table, right?
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
The thing about pretty guns is it hurts when they get dinged . Nobody parks a Vett or 944 in the 3rd row from the door at Walmart but a farm truck does every time and calls door dings character lines because they're improvements via grunge dropping . They can't all be 3# trigger , birdseye ,stocked , K98s with M70 safeties , sometimes it's function over form .
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
HAR! The stuff I drive is the stuff people with decent vehicle refuse to park near! Most of my guns are the same way!!! ;)
 

fiver

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i generally park waaay far away from everyone or near a farm truck.
those are the guys that look at a shined and spiffed car and take a bit extra care with their doors.
they know what it's like to have to work for something.
i stay far away from stuff like Escalades and beemers [unless it's an old 3 series] half the time they are operated by people that were given them and don't pay the insurance or gas.
 

Mitty38

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Being an Ohioan and having known Tom ... RIP.
I have several High points . Many I still own,including the Original Maverick pistol.
The only High Point Carbine I ever traded off was the 45 carbine. Traded it For a Rossi 410, .22.
It just fell so short of my expectations after owning other High Points.Realy gained nothing over the 9 mm.
All the Carbines are rugged but...
Now the 10's are fairly accurate, and will shoot just about anything well.works well with their barrel length.
Do you self a Favor and get the 10 mm. Rip off the sights and throw on a Red Dot. If you are going to carry that much plastic and zumac around, may as well go big and actually have something you can use to hunt with.
The 10 is really the only thing High Point, that reaches beyond a home defence gun and range toy.
Enough Said.
 
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Bisley

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A co-worker and I got to talking about guns. A the end of the conversation he said this: "You're a collector. You have guns to show your friends, not your enemies." I had to admit he was right.
 

Mitty38

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I just realized, I technically collect High Points, ye I know.
But if I were to keep only 2 it would be the Maverick 9 pistol ( the first gun model they made, basically fitted by hand by Tom) and the 10 mm Carbine.
 
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